I'm self employed and sort of semi retired. The wifes good enough to ship orders while I'm away cause she loves to eat elk. However, believe it or not I have to drag a laptop along and find a signal every couple of days to provide customer service. With all that said, last year in Nv I shot an elk on the 5th day. 10 days later I headed to Utah and got skunked, I hunted the entire season in Utah, 20 days. So...
Elk 30 or more
Deer is something I hunt while I hunt elk because I am not into it to much anymore, although if its the only thing going then I'll do it. so... I guess Deer 30 as well.