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Offline Killdeer

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Re: Its unavoidable
« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2012, 08:29:00 PM »
Hey, Bill didn't respond to mine, either.    :D
I finally got a KME, and took it to the Grizzlies I bought at Baltimore. They even shave MY hair, which is hard to do because it isn't wiry and poppable like guy hair. Mine just limboes out of the way, usually. Not now!

I can't wait to shoot them on my new arrows this weekend.
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Re: Its unavoidable
« Reply #41 on: July 20, 2012, 08:49:00 PM »
Kathy, I took your post as an application for a marketing postion with Zipper/Grizzly/soon to be in bankruptcy court. If I use your hippie suggestion.    :biglaugh:    
Ron, told me you tried to pull a fast one on him. He also said you were too slick for him and was successful.
How is your lame leg?
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Re: Its unavoidable
« Reply #42 on: July 20, 2012, 08:57:00 PM »
I am hobbling still, but can outrun Ron.    :bigsmyl:
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Re: Its unavoidable
« Reply #43 on: July 20, 2012, 09:04:00 PM »
Thats bad news for, Ron! He just went back to the shop for second shift so he should be easy to outrun right now.   :D  
Hopefully that hobble goes away before time to sneak to the woods.
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Re: Its unavoidable
« Reply #44 on: July 20, 2012, 10:10:00 PM »
It better go away right soon, I need to get back to work!
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Re: Its unavoidable
« Reply #45 on: July 20, 2012, 10:45:00 PM »
Makes sense to me Bill.  :thumbsup:  After all improving a prouduct isn't free. Looking forward to seeing the new ones at Denton Hill.


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Re: Its unavoidable
« Reply #46 on: July 20, 2012, 11:01:00 PM »
I've got no suggestion just apppreciation. Keep doing what you're doing Bill. Keep making great ideas into great products. And I hope your efforts to contain costs while providing quality products brings you loads of business. Or at least keeps you and your free spirited marketing rep out of bankruptcy court    :)
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Re: Its unavoidable
« Reply #47 on: July 20, 2012, 11:07:00 PM »
Heyhey!
I represent that!!
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Re: Its unavoidable
« Reply #48 on: July 20, 2012, 11:23:00 PM »
The improvements you have made to this broadhead are worth every penny.
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Re: Its unavoidable
« Reply #49 on: July 20, 2012, 11:33:00 PM »
I am wondering why anybody would want or care if their broadheads were PAINTED!!!!

Good grief. I am outa here!

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Re: Its unavoidable
« Reply #50 on: July 21, 2012, 01:28:00 AM »
that price is still a damn sight cheaper than than all the super dooper one piece CNC machined heads out there. alot of them are modeled on the grizzly!

which head was that doc ashby was getting the best results with.......?

thanks for the honesty, we all like that.
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Re: Its unavoidable
« Reply #51 on: July 21, 2012, 02:18:00 AM »
Bill I think it's great that you explained the reasons you raised prices but it really wasn't necessary we all know that the cost have gone up all we care about is a great product,Thank You.
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Re: Its unavoidable
« Reply #52 on: July 21, 2012, 11:54:00 AM »
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I am wondering why anybody would want or care if their broadheads were PAINTED!!!!

Good grief. I am outa here!

justin
Because they look bad when the paint is all chipped right out of the package...I'm thinking that brand new BHDs (like brand new anything) probably should look brand new?


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Re: Its unavoidable
« Reply #53 on: July 21, 2012, 12:05:00 PM »
Sounds like a nice upgrade, and a very fair price for a quality head.

Any availability update on the Teflon Coated versions?
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Re: Its unavoidable
« Reply #54 on: July 21, 2012, 12:30:00 PM »
"Because they look bad when the paint is all chipped right out of the package...I'm thinking that brand new BHDs (like brand new anything) probably should look brand new?"

Yeah, let them look new! I can put the hand-ground "racing stripes" on the ferrule at home.
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Re: Its unavoidable
« Reply #55 on: July 21, 2012, 01:17:00 PM »
I think they would look cooler coated with titanium nitride. Then you'd have golden points and the finish is seriously tough. Talk about a lifetime coating. That is what they coat drill bits and Desert Eagles with.
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Re: Its unavoidable
« Reply #56 on: July 21, 2012, 02:22:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Gator1:
Sounds like a nice upgrade, and a very fair price for a quality head.

Any availability update on the Teflon Coated versions?
In about a week and a half we should have all the heads except 160's. They will all still need grinding but we will at least have them on hand. If you would like you can preorder to get your heads as soon as they are available.

Lee the gold color would look cool but with several different weights of heads we need to be able to color code them. I dont know about the cost of the titanium nitride but I dont think gold is very tactical.
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Re: Its unavoidable
« Reply #57 on: July 21, 2012, 03:40:00 PM »
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Lee the gold color would look cool but with several different weights of heads we need to be able to color code them. I dont know about the cost of the titanium nitride but I dont think gold is very tactical.
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I think most of us know what weight we shoot without color-coating. Maybe, if you decide to change in the future, strike the weight into the blade with a stamp (150gr) and so on.

I used to hunt with mechanical broadheads that were gold before I switched to the much more simple two-bladed broadheads that I can just sharpen with a file if I miss a squirrel.

yeah, I have burned plenty of mechanicals taking shots at squirrels. They just annoy me so much that they ASK for being shot. Plus, they make for a tasty lunch between deer hunts      :D    

And titanium nitride (TiN) is just a powder that you dissolve into acid like other plating material. You could electroplate a thousand broadheads in a few minutes.  Here is some info about it.   http://www.reade.com/products/32-nitride-compounds-powders/799-titanium-nitride-powder-tin-ti2n-nti-tinite-tinite-tini-azanylidynetitanium-cas-25583-20-4  


I tinker around with electroplating guns that I don't like (glocks). Nickel is a good plating material too. It is very hard and bonds to carbon steel.

Nickel has had its problems in the past though because if it's not carbon steel then it's usually bonded to a metal like copper. That doesn't work well for pistols because if someone gets a hold of the wrong solvent while cleaning their gun then it can eat at the copper under the nickel and then allow the nickel to flake off.  If it's bonded to carbon steel then it's not an issue. It's a long-lasting metal as well.

Electroplating is super easy. All you really need is a dissolved metal, which you could even suspend in something safe like vinegar if you'd like, a cathode and anode to transfer electricity and electricity.

You place a negative charge to whatever you're wanting plated and then positively charge the suspended metal in the solution.  The metal will then be drawn to the negatively charged target and voila you have a new coated item.
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Re: Its unavoidable
« Reply #58 on: July 21, 2012, 08:22:00 PM »
Im Happy to see Grizzly in your hands Bill, There are going to be a lot of happy grizzly shooters out there.    :thumbsup:
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Re: Its unavoidable
« Reply #59 on: July 21, 2012, 08:28:00 PM »
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Thank you for increasing the price instead of cutting corners to make them cheaper to produce.
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