Originally posted by hockeyref:
So What are you shooting them out of? A 2419 is a serious piece of aluminum tubing!
The 2419 failed on the first shot into a board using an 85# @ 29" bow. I didn't expect it to hold up but wanted to see what would happen.
what glue are you using for the inserts.
FerrLTite for the aluminium, Easton epoxy for the Easton AXIS, and (I think) CA gel for the Arrow dynamics.
Edited to add a few thoughts....
1- Is the carbon shaft end square? No internal bevel on the shaft end?
The ends were square; they were cut at the archery shop using an Apple saw.
2- Are the inserts the correct size, the shoulder square, and seated flush against the shaft?
Yup.
3- Is the epoxy you are using strong enough?
I think that adhesive needs some attention. I used CA for the Arrow Dynamics; that might be too brittle. I'm trying to decide what I'll try next.
The Easton epoxy I used is no longer the adhesive Easton recommends. I'm not sure exactly why; it may be that the original epoxy was too brittle. Does anyone know?
4- Have you done this to aluminum that was NOT abused by shooting into hard objects like boards and walls?
Nope.
5- How many shots until it "mushrooms"? Given the wear showing on the end of that carbon, you may simpliy be wearing out the shaft end. When you get down through the coating you wear the shaft itself and each shot is one closer to failure...
With the Easton AXIS: several hundred, I'd guess. With the sleeved Arrow Dynamics: not more than a few dozen shots. (But those golf balls were taking off!)
Then again, you're doing the same thing to a footed carbon???
Yeah that's what has me wondering. I'm shooting the footed Arrow Dynamics with a 70# bow. That's still somewhat heavy, but I expected longer shaft life than a few dozen shots.
And, given that the Arrow Dynaimcs inserts have flanges, I'm not so sure that the adhesive used is very important.