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Author Topic: The Arguement FOR Heavy Bows  (Read 23541 times)

Offline Archie

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Re: The Arguement FOR Heavy Bows
« Reply #200 on: September 21, 2012, 03:29:00 PM »
I have bows of several weights to choose from.  At my draw, they are about 47#, 48#, 65#, 68#, and 78#.  I enjoy shooting my 47#-er most, because I like that bow the most.  But I have also been shooting the 68#-er, a recurve.  Although I shoot it very little, I can pick it up and shoot it more consistently and accurately... due to the heavier weight forcing a cleaner release, and in my case, because I think I don't overdraw it like I think I do the lighter bows.
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Re: The Arguement FOR Heavy Bows
« Reply #201 on: September 21, 2012, 03:31:00 PM »
Love that signature line, Archie!  Nothing like a good bit of sarcasm!   :laughing:

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Re: The Arguement FOR Heavy Bows
« Reply #202 on: September 21, 2012, 03:34:00 PM »
Thanks, Luke!  I still chuckle when I read it myself!
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Re: The Arguement FOR Heavy Bows
« Reply #203 on: September 21, 2012, 07:46:00 PM »
I am in a tree with my 95# Rogue for the first time today. Nice and warm out, and I was shooting it pretty well earlier today.   Hope somethin gives me a chance to use it.  I am only now, after around a year with this bow, at a point that I feel safe to hunt with it.

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Re: The Arguement FOR Heavy Bows
« Reply #204 on: September 21, 2012, 08:35:00 PM »
Good luck Pat!
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Re: The Arguement FOR Heavy Bows
« Reply #205 on: September 22, 2012, 02:01:00 PM »
Thanks for all the alerts guys..... I cleaned it up.

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Re: The Arguement FOR Heavy Bows
« Reply #206 on: September 23, 2012, 09:28:00 AM »
I guess some folks just have a hard time reading and understanding the title of this thread.      :(      :(      :(      

Thanks again guys for the emails.....we are going to keep this topic on topic.
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Re: The Arguement FOR Heavy Bows
« Reply #207 on: September 24, 2012, 09:41:00 AM »
How about some pics of some heavy bows and bow kills guys?

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Re: The Arguement FOR Heavy Bows
« Reply #208 on: September 26, 2012, 07:07:00 AM »
I see I see. one week in a hotel, one week on a ship, one more week in another hotel, and one week traveling and I could not pull my 70lbs bow for another week. Had to work back into it.
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Offline Igor

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Re: The Arguement FOR Heavy Bows
« Reply #209 on: September 26, 2012, 07:46:00 AM »
I've been recently shooting a long bow that is about 70# at my draw length a least couple times a week (mostly) weekends as part of my routine (usually shoot at least 4 times a week and try to make it to the gym on the other 3 days). When I do that I warm up with a bow fit exerciser and then shoot the Heavier bow 20-30 times - my middle weight bow 30+ and then my lightest bow 40+ times. What I've found is that my draw strength has improved - don't struggle with the heavy bow any more and my ability to draw and hold/shoot the lighter bows has improved dramatically. Also my accuracy has improved from what I believe is better form because I had to improve in that area to shoot the heavier bow with any degree of accuracy where I could be sloppier with the lighter bows in the past.

I'm 60years old next spring and about 170lbs...

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Re: The Arguement FOR Heavy Bows
« Reply #210 on: September 26, 2012, 08:03:00 AM »
I have also found that since picking up my first 'heavier bow' at the beginning of the month my form has been forced to improve greatly and I'm using my back more than ever before. I have moved into the new weight fairly easily and my accuracy has improved across the board as an added bonus.
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Offline Forrest Halley

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Re: The Arguement FOR Heavy Bows
« Reply #211 on: September 26, 2012, 09:35:00 AM »
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Originally posted by atatarpm:
I see I see. one week in a hotel, one week on a ship, one more week in another hotel, and one week traveling and I could not pull my 70lbs bow for another week. Had to work back into it.
I shoot mainly around 100# bows and own a few 50# bows also. I recently went on a round the world voyage for work and was away from my bows for 100 days. I exercised several times a week with a 30# kettle bell in hopes of lessening the recovery curve to full strength. I must report that I am stronger than I was and last night upon arriving home I had no trouble pulling the 100# bow to full draw. There was a little shake, but nothing a week of practice can't cure.
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Re: The Arguement FOR Heavy Bows
« Reply #212 on: September 26, 2012, 07:11:00 PM »
Interesting thread guys...I shot 65lbs for many years and with a 30+" draw and my favorite 650gr cedars was quite confident I could kill whatever I shot at...Since I only hnt whitetails I didn't need all the weight.

So for the past 6-7 years I've shot bows in the low 50s.. Recently I took out an old home made 67pounder and although I tired after a dozen or so arrows, I'm sure I could build back up to it in short order.

I just don't know why I would since i'm only hunting whitetails and I have a hard time picking a spot on anything much past 25 yds away..

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Re: The Arguement FOR Heavy Bows
« Reply #213 on: September 26, 2012, 08:07:00 PM »
John, I started this thread to see what guys enjoyed about shooting heavier draw weights and got plenty of great answers. For me, I hunt deer but always like to be ready for a last minute moose hunt if the opportunity presents but my bows were all of satisfactory weight for that eventuality.... When all was said and done it was the challenge that appealed most but I also discovered some unexpected benefits like better form and a cleaner release on the way....
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Offline Forrest Halley

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Re: The Arguement FOR Heavy Bows
« Reply #214 on: September 26, 2012, 09:09:00 PM »
To answer the OP:
I like the cleaner release I get from the increased draw weight. I'm marginally more accurate with the heavies than the lighter bows. I agree with the poster that reasoned this is because of the increased practice on the road to getting comfy with it. I also like the idea of a one bow being able to tackle many different sizes of game. It's pretty amazing how much energy is retained (and distance is covered)after striking the ground while stumping giving high confidence in the penetration ability of the setup.
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Re: The Arguement FOR Heavy Bows
« Reply #215 on: September 27, 2012, 05:24:00 PM »
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Re: The Arguement FOR Heavy Bows
« Reply #216 on: September 27, 2012, 06:39:00 PM »
Pat i loved shooting your 78# Morrison Gen3 longbow at Stonewall!!!  Dont forget i got dibbs on that dude & the Thunder Child!!!
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Re: The Arguement FOR Heavy Bows
« Reply #217 on: September 28, 2012, 09:14:00 PM »
I have worked my way up to shooting 58# fairly comfortably, and have been toying with 65# lately.  I find the heavier bows more accurate to shoot as my release is cleaner and the cast allows more foregiveness with ranging errors.  Plus it just hits so hard how can you not enjoy shooting a heavy bow!!
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Re: The Arguement FOR Heavy Bows
« Reply #218 on: September 29, 2012, 09:30:00 PM »
Barry, you shot that Morrison ILF very well.  As you know, I have trouble parting with my bows, lol.

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Re: The Arguement FOR Heavy Bows
« Reply #219 on: September 29, 2012, 09:43:00 PM »
I normally shoot bows in the mid-50's because of shoulder injuries that ultimately resulted in extensive surgery almost 7 years ago. But when hunting buffalo, a bow in the 70 pound range is about the minimum most of us think is required. This year I again began the months of building to get back to shooting a 70 pound bow for another buffalo hunt in Australia. It took about 3 months to get comfortable again at that weight. As long as my strength is good and fatigue has not set in, I can shoot a 70 pound bow more accurately than my normal weight bows. I shoot best with a hold of several seconds at my anchor point, so I have to be stronger than if I were "snap shooting." The stability of the incredibly strong limbs of my new Shrew Safari, along with the stability of my body being held firmly in place by the higher forces and the clean release of the string being ripped from my fingers all lend themselves to consistent form, arrow flight and shot placement. My heavy arrows fly like darts, especially when they weigh 1000 grains, with 500 of that in the brass insert and broadhead. I would like to have shoulders healthy enough to shoot a 70 pound bow all the time, but that's asking too much from this 60 year old, torn up body. Although I don't seem to be doing too much additional damage to my shoulders when shooting heavier bows, they feel sore after every long shooting session using more than about 60 pounds, so I'm sure the added poundage isn't doing my joints a lot of good. I love my heavier bows and recognize that for hunting some animals there simply is no option other than stepping up to more poundage that can launch heavy arrows at reasonable speeds.

I'm glad I'm not left-handed so I am not tempted to try to shoot Patrick Kelly's much heavier bows when we are together at the range!!!

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