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Author Topic: Human Urine - Mock Scrapes - Study  (Read 730 times)

Offline USN_Sam1385

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Re: Human Urine - Mock Scrapes - Study
« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2012, 09:47:00 PM »
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Re: Human Urine - Mock Scrapes - Study
« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2012, 09:53:00 PM »
Owlbait, not a bad idea. Hang a rag soaked with human urine from a tree limb over a mock scrape and let the wind carry the scent.I'm gonna try that and see what happens.
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Re: Human Urine - Mock Scrapes - Study
« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2012, 09:57:00 PM »
That "mature" scent from the "home" should bring in bigger bucks, eh?
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Re: Human Urine - Mock Scrapes - Study
« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2012, 11:03:00 PM »
I never thought about the female better half cooperating on this one?
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Re: Human Urine - Mock Scrapes - Study
« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2012, 11:08:00 PM »
Aye!   JoeKeith, is this your idea of getting women into the sport of hunting?    :biglaugh:

Just kidding...no harm was intended!!! Its just this post really made me laugh!

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Re: Human Urine - Mock Scrapes - Study
« Reply #25 on: August 19, 2012, 12:35:00 AM »
I pee on coyote scratches and they get rehit. Have one right now Im after that scratches over my tracks.They don't care where it came from its just another trespasser. We make animals way smater than they are. And my sucses with deer proves they are way smarter than me.  :banghead:
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Offline Ryman Cat

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Re: Human Urine - Mock Scrapes - Study
« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2012, 01:32:00 AM »
I have been peeing for ever off stands and in scrapes as well and they tear things up. I peed on does and they just watched me and turned and licked it so yes its an old wives tail been saying for years myself.

I actually think my pee is a big time attractant because of the sugar in my urine spilling over.

Also same with blood I found I cut myself and was leaking all down the tree and the does walked right in and licked the tree and looked up they didn't see me I didn't move.

What the deer supposidly can tell is the fat content I have read thats how they deterime dominance I also read. That would mean I must me the dominent Buck because again I have to have a lot of fat content also.

I won't dump unless I have to get out of the tree or blind and go away from where I am positioned.

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Re: Human Urine - Mock Scrapes - Study
« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2012, 02:10:00 AM »
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I don't believe it bothers them at all.  You want some action, have your favorite female pee in a jar that time of the month.  That makes a difference.

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That will definitely attract more bears and cougars.   :thumbsup:

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Re: Human Urine - Mock Scrapes - Study
« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2012, 07:20:00 AM »
Keith some practices could be detrimental to marriages...lol

I know someone(un-named) who used to get his wife to freeze her used feminine products then just as the rut was beginning to start would thaw then hang them about deer nose level.

That seemed to draw curious critters of several kinds including deer.

I know for a fact that the man was threatened by the wife about what would happen if he ever "let the cat" that she had anything to do with said feminine goods....lol

I sometimes marvel at the lengths some hunters will go to.....in the name of research and for a successful hunt...lol

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Re: Human Urine - Mock Scrapes - Study
« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2012, 07:40:00 AM »
Keith, my own experiments in that vein yielded no positive results. But again, that might be an old wife's tale.      :saywhat:  

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Re: Human Urine - Mock Scrapes - Study
« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2012, 06:29:00 PM »
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 Briefly, I have on several occasions poured a bottle of fresh urine out with large groups (10-20) of deer 150-200 yards away with an ever so slight breeze to carry the scent of the urine to them.  Once I poured the urine out there was a 15-20 second delay and all the deer happily feeding w/o a care in the world would all look up in my general direction very concerned and w/I seconds would all leave the area in a quick orderly fashion (no flagging of the tail or snorting).  So don't kid yourself if you think deer don't mind the smell of human urine.  
I respect your observation. However, it may be an incorrect perception. You stated that you poured urine out 150 yards away from a group of deer with the wind BLOWING TOWARD THE DEER to carry the scent.

Your observation is that it is the smell of the URINE that scared the deer.

I would perceive that it was the smell of YOU downwind of an entire herd of deer that got you busted.

I would be more inclined to trust the observations of a study where only the human urine vs. synthetic/deer urine was used vs. having a human variable present, such as in your case.

I won't disagree that standing 150 yards away from a herd of deer with wind blowing toward them is going to scare them away.

Try it with a cup of water next time and see what happens...

Just a thought...        :)  [/b]
I was thinking the same thing. If the deer can smell the pee because the wind in blowing toward them. They can smell you standing there pouring the urine with the wind blowing your scent toward them at the same time.

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Re: Human Urine - Mock Scrapes - Study
« Reply #31 on: August 19, 2012, 06:55:00 PM »
X2 what USN Sam1385 said.

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Re: Human Urine - Mock Scrapes - Study
« Reply #32 on: August 19, 2012, 09:52:00 PM »
X3, as USN_Sam1385 said, try the same with a glass of water for a control.

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Re: Human Urine - Mock Scrapes - Study
« Reply #33 on: August 20, 2012, 10:02:00 AM »
For the life of me I can't understand why anyone advocates depositing such a strong human scent in a scrape or area where one hopes to find a deer. We work so hard to put stands in the proper places and to leave as little odor as possible in order to defeat the deer's first line of defense (his nose) and then to contradict all this effort by deliberately urinating in the very area where you want the deer to appear for a shot---makes no sense to me at all.  

I take a plastic jug which I painted in camo fashion about three or 4 years ago now---weighs maybe a couple of ounces or so, and is absolutely no trouble to tote along.  I have never seen a big buck do anything even remotely foolish like rushing up in reponse to human scents of any kind so I try not to leave any behind.  However, do what makes you happy and good luck to you.

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Re: Human Urine - Mock Scrapes - Study
« Reply #34 on: August 20, 2012, 11:22:00 AM »
PENN STATE    did a research study about 10 years ago and  found deer could NOT  tell the differences between urine species.  Numerous   types of urine from several species, predators included,  AND HUMAN were used. The deer recognized them as urine ( how the hell they did that i'm not sure ) but could not tell the difference !
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Re: Human Urine - Mock Scrapes - Study
« Reply #35 on: August 20, 2012, 01:16:00 PM »
LOL, well I will certainly not claim to be an expert on the subject. I actually killed a nice 7 point white tail one time while I was peeing. The buck walked within 15 yards of me while I was in mid stream. Managed to get the flow shut down and then did not bother trying to put things away before shooting the deer. I dont think it bothers them at all.

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Re: Human Urine - Mock Scrapes - Study
« Reply #36 on: August 20, 2012, 01:34:00 PM »
Ha!
I think you bothered that buck a little!

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Re: Human Urine - Mock Scrapes - Study
« Reply #37 on: August 20, 2012, 02:46:00 PM »
I often pee down my legs while on the stand.
This way no other hunters take my spot:)
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Re: Human Urine - Mock Scrapes - Study
« Reply #38 on: August 20, 2012, 03:28:00 PM »
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I wonder how they would react to cougar or wolf urine? I still say human urine MAY be useful but a lot depends on diet, medication, and health.I will continue to make my lures from combinations of scents, with DEER urine being the base for those scents.
I dont know about wolof urine but I once watched a coyote take a pee and within 15 minutes a doe came along stuck her nose in the coyote pee and then began trailing the coyote . It sure wasnt alarmed !

 That was about 30 years ago and I have been experimenting with human urine ever since . I dont believe a deer knows the difference between any urine . To a deer urine is urine .

 BTW ............ I also dont believe all the urine sold as deer urine is really deer urine .
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Re: Human Urine - Mock Scrapes - Study
« Reply #39 on: August 20, 2012, 05:07:00 PM »
Wonder what the people who read this stuff 1000 years from now will think about us

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