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Author Topic: How big is this Wisconsin bear.....new pictures  (Read 1002 times)

Offline Kris

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Re: How big is this Wisconsin bear.....new pictures
« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2012, 01:23:00 PM »
I'll throw my hat in...#285lbs dressed.  We may find out soon enough, if my brother has a chance at this one.

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Re: How big is this Wisconsin bear.....new pictures
« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2012, 01:44:00 PM »
It looks like the bear is about 6 1/2 feet tall from ground to snout. That's judging against the fella that is 6'1 in the other picture. Bent over on all fours, he is probably the size of a bait drum or slightly shorter. I would figure it is a 200lb bear. The fur is about 2 to 3 inches thick with a nice coat like that on him. With that in mind, his overall size looks much bigger than he likely would weigh on a scale due to the thick coat of fur. Bears with really nice coats on them are deceiving in size! I agree with the 200 pound guess. My bear was small and we both thought she was a decent size before we actually laid hands on her.

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Re: How big is this Wisconsin bear.....new pictures
« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2012, 01:48:00 PM »
His ears look big compared to his head, younger bear, I would guess around 200# as well.
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Re: How big is this Wisconsin bear.....new pictures
« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2012, 02:13:00 PM »
My guess(327.5#) is live weight or before field dressing weight!  :bigsmyl:
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Re: How big is this Wisconsin bear.....new pictures
« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2012, 02:21:00 PM »
200 to 225.

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Re: How big is this Wisconsin bear.....new pictures
« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2012, 05:33:00 PM »
280 as he walks.
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Re: How big is this Wisconsin bear.....new pictures
« Reply #26 on: August 20, 2012, 08:33:00 PM »
If you wait 5-8 years to draw a tag. Theres no second thought.  Big enough to arrow!  Good luck and hope the dogs don't run him off your bait.
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Re: How big is this Wisconsin bear.....new pictures
« Reply #27 on: August 20, 2012, 08:41:00 PM »
Thanks for all the input,  great range of weight guessing.

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Re: How big is this Wisconsin bear.....new pictures
« Reply #28 on: August 20, 2012, 09:58:00 PM »
I have harvested alot of bears and I agree a bear on the foot will make a liar out of you but I would be willing to bet that bear is over 300. Look close at its mid section its nice and healthy like alot of us , Ha. Ha. but all jokes aside the bear did not lean up when it stretched to reach in the tree. That bear definatly over 300. Very beautiful coat. Just my opinion.

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Re: How big is this Wisconsin bear.....new pictures
« Reply #29 on: August 20, 2012, 10:01:00 PM »
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Hard to tell with absolutely nothing in the pic  for reference...it's very easy to overestimate the size of a bear...and most do.

My guess....around 200#
So very true.  And with the added reference pic, I think that may be high.  People WAY overestimate bear. [/b]
I think it is worse with hogs.    :D
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Re: How big is this Wisconsin bear.....new pictures
« Reply #30 on: August 20, 2012, 10:40:00 PM »
I'd guess between 250-275, live weight.

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Re: How big is this Wisconsin bear.....new pictures
« Reply #31 on: August 20, 2012, 11:03:00 PM »
It is hard to judge size from trail camera pics.First,the bear is in short Summer hair,something we don't see in hunting season and he is still very thick in build.It is a boar.No sow has a chest that deep and there isn't a 200 lb bear on earth built as thick as it is.

I'm positive it's a mature boar.It can't have a chest that deep or upper front legs that heavy even at 300 lbs.I've been measuring and mounting bears for about 3 decades and have a notebook full of measurements that I use for reference.

A bear like that will have a head 13" long,conservatively.That makes his chest 18" deep,which is big-deeper than the largest whitetail bucks.18" chest depth equals about 45"-48" circumference.That means about 50"-54" belly girth.Total length,nose to base of tail-hard to say.If that measures 68",350 lbs.If it measures 72",400 lbs.

Bears ears vary in size and in Summer,they look bigger because the hair is shorter.Sorry to go against the flow but I have to live by measurements and that's what I think.I'll really stick my neck out and predict it will be 5 1/4"-5 1/2" nose to eye,25-26" neck,behind the skull,45"-48" chest girth,50"-54" belly girth and 68"-72" nose to base of tail-350 lbs minimum-on the hoof,not gutted.

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Re: How big is this Wisconsin bear.....new pictures
« Reply #32 on: August 20, 2012, 11:37:00 PM »
This might help show what I was trying to explain.

3 1/2 year old,125# bear,built like a dog.
 
5 1/2 year old,225 # bear,starting to get a bear shape but not massive in the front end.
 
10+ year old,350# boar.This one had been rutting for a couple weeks so the belly wasn't filled out but massive in the front end,deep,wide chest and powerful upper,front legs.19 5/16" skull,68" length,53" girth.
 

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Re: How big is this Wisconsin bear.....new pictures
« Reply #33 on: August 20, 2012, 11:43:00 PM »
Jim, you explained it well. Thanks for the tutorial.

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Re: How big is this Wisconsin bear.....new pictures
« Reply #34 on: August 21, 2012, 01:12:00 AM »
I'd guess live weight 250 maybe a little less.
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Re: How big is this Wisconsin bear.....new pictures
« Reply #35 on: August 21, 2012, 01:30:00 AM »
I am 6-2 almost and weigh 210 and that Bear appears alot heavier than me easily.Pics can be deceiving though either way.

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Re: How big is this Wisconsin bear.....new pictures
« Reply #36 on: August 21, 2012, 08:22:00 AM »
Thanks JimB, great breakdown from your hands-on knowledge.  Hope to have some concrete results.

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Re: How big is this Wisconsin bear.....new pictures
« Reply #37 on: August 21, 2012, 01:28:00 PM »
Good stuff JimB.....thanks for the info!
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Re: How big is this Wisconsin bear.....new pictures
« Reply #38 on: August 21, 2012, 04:03:00 PM »
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Thanks JimB, great breakdown from your hands-on knowledge.  Hope to have some concrete results.
gordydog,you are welcome.I hope you get a chance to weigh him,then we'll know for sure.

If it were me,I would put a small blaze on that tree at the 36" height.Outfitters say if a bear's back,when on all fours,reaches the top of a 55 gal drum or above,it is a shooter.Most barrels stand 34.5".It would give you a good idea if he gets on all fours but he must be real close to the tree,otherwise the camera lense makes him look bigger.

I think that's your boss bear at that site.Do you have more pictures of him? Anyway,good luck.

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Re: How big is this Wisconsin bear.....new pictures
« Reply #39 on: August 21, 2012, 08:21:00 PM »
What JimB said. Bears are the hardest thing there is to judge size on unless you really know what your looking at. Hunting them with a stickbow you set up really close. The few I've killed were at 8 feet, 6 yards and 14 yards. From that distance they look gigantic! And each one was 75 to 100 pounds less than I thought they were when I dropped the string! They all look big in the woods until you actually see one alive up close the size of a Volkswagon Beetle. Then you really know what a BIG bear looks like    :eek:
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