I have a summit viper and the climbing bar gets in the way,,, cost me a deer last year. Yeah, you can shoot around it but for close shots it is difficult. Just bought a summit Razor and the climbing bar folds under the seat,,,, a much better choice for a tradman. If you buy direct from Summit, you might be able to buy a Titan base ( 350 lb.) with a Razor top section. one thing about all climbers,,,, stay cinched to the tree at all times including the climb up amd down,,,, saw an accident year when a cable came loose on the way down,,, it was not pretty.