FYI, Knife and broadhead sharpening

[VA Bowbender]

I have noticed that there is a common error made referencing the sharpening of blades on a stone.  Many refer to a stone as a "wet stone".  The term does not refer to water, oil, spit or other liquid put upon the stone, but the act of sharpening or whetting.

 whet


  whet[1,transitive verb]whet[2,noun]saw-whet owl  

Main Entry: 1whet
Pronunciation: 'hwet, 'wet
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): whet·ted; whet·ting
Etymology: Middle English whetten, from Old English hwettan; akin to Old High German wezzen to whet, waz sharp
1 : to sharpen by rubbing on or with something (as a stone)
2 : to make keen or more acute : EXCITE, STIMULATE
- whet·ter noun

Just my 2 cents, thanks

[Charlie Lamb]

I know whet you're talking about Bob!      :D

[geno]

I believe earl is put on the stone to keep the metal from collecting in the stone correct??

[Flatshooter]

Whet?

[OconeeDan]

And most Canada Geese are not from Canada, or they would truly be called "Canadian Geese", as many people do.

[beachbowhunter]

I may be whet behind the ears as a bowhunter but what I do know is when I have arrows that are the right spline my bow is real quite. Don't want them to jump the string after a long stock.  :rolleyes:

[Crooked Stic]

spine

[John D]

Whet the hec are you fellows talking about? Please exspline it to me.

[Artur]

Originally posted by geno:
I believe earl is put on the stone to keep the metal from collecting in the stone correct??

The only thing oil is useful for on a whet stone is to make it easy to see when you have achieved the correct angle with the blade, in relation to the surface of the stone. The microscopic bits of material removed from the stone during the whetting process -- along with the metal filings from the blade -- become suspended in the oil and act as a grinding compound -- and proceed to re-dull the edge you just "sharpened". It's comparable to when a plow goes through the ground. Dry stones work a lot better, and they last a lot longer; just clean the stone(s) really good when you are done. Don't bother with oil, or even water, unless it can be **constantly** removed from the stone. ("The Razor Edge Book of Sharpening", John Juranitch; Razor Edge Systems, Inc., Ely, MN)

Now that's out of they whey, I think I'll wet my whistle -- curds I just had slaked my appetite which was whetted from going too long without eating.

[Shakes.602]

I remember  "Way Back In The Day",   :rolleyes:   watching my StepDad sharpen on a "Whatever" Stone, and he used  3In1 Oil , Just a Little bit and he worked the Oil back & Forth depending on what Direction he Needed to go. Just My 2 Cents.  

[Killdeer]

beachbowhunter...thank you!
Its good two no you arros are splined for quite flight. Ewe have and excellant grip on gramma, two!    

This was about rocks, right? Oh yeah, some of 'em like water.
Killdeer  :D

[chrisg]

Don't let them rib you! Elegant and accurate use of language is a pleasure to read and hear. Of course this does not mean that anyone speaks that way at all but clarity is better achieved with good grammer and spelling! Would it not be a boring world if we all spoke perfect textbook English, French, Chinese etc all the time? Common Grammatical conventions and semantics mean more speakers and a wider base of mutual understanding between people.

My foggy memory reminds me that years ago my linguistics prof told us that "correct grammer" is a myth; the only 'correct' part of a way of speaking is to use an agreed code that is understood by at least one other person!Grammer is like a base operating system in computers. Then you add culture and semantics. Huh? He was just the prof speaking in a 'transformational linguistics' class after all.   ( don't ask!) Did I actually study this stuff....? Archery is way more fun!

Ok, I'll get off my soapbox now
Chrisg

[Aeronut]

I've always liked this'un.

Dennis


Owed to a Spell Chequer

I halve a spelling chequer
It came with my pea sea
It plane lee marques four my revue
Miss steaks aye ken knot sea


Eye ran this poem threw it
Your sure reel glad two no
It's vary polished in it's weigh
My chequer tolled me sew


A chequer is a bless sing
It freeze yew lodes of thyme
It helps me awl stiles two reed
And aides mi when aye rime


To rite with care is quite a feet
Of witch won should be proud
And wee mussed dew the best wee can
Sew flaws are knot aloud

And now bee cause my spelling
is checked with such grate flare
Their are know faults with in my cite
Of nun eye am a wear

Each frays come posed up on my screen
Eye trussed to be a joule
The chequer poured o'er every word
To cheque sum spelling rule

That's why aye brake in two averse
My righting wants too pleas
Sow now ewe sea wye aye dew prays
Such soft wear for pea seas


But I have always used a cutting oil on my whet stones and have a better edge on my blades.

[Killdeer]

"correct grammer" is a myth...

grammar   :p  
I love this stuff!    

Oh, I use a honing oil too. Lifts grum out of the pores of the stone and carries them away. No hurry! No slurry! No sirree Bob!  :D

[Billy]

I hated English class and despised Mrs. Simms for forcing me to diagram the thoughts that were of no use to a redneck, farm country kid. But, then again; after all the fuss- I did learn that cleaning my clothes was not doing the 'warsh'...    
 If, I use a tri-stone; should I put more effort in, or use H2O versus Marvel oil?   :rolleyes:    :D  
 Iz so glad ev'ryone hear has sutch a gud cents o'humer tho.....

[chrisg]

Thanks Killdeer, now I'm going to ask for my school fees back! 'Of course' it's grammar    

That 'pome'/ode to spellcheck! Fabulous! It had to come, heck I used to remember 80 telephone numbers but with the new cellphones even the 'old' ones, who can remember their own number ,even?

I'll go and take my tablets now. Nah I'll go and shoot my bow some, we understand each other.
chrisg

[Jeremy]

I'll stay away from the grammar wars (I'd lose anyway), but I disagree about not using water or oil on most stones.

Water stones (like the Japanese ones) will not function properly if not used wet.  The slurry you say dulls the blade is actually doing the bulk of the sharpening.

The same holds true if you're using diamond paste on a flat plate to sharpen - and I've met a few pro woodworkers who do.

Then there are the arkansas and india stones.  Most of the arkansas stones I've used/seen will quickly become glazed over and lose all cutting ability if you don't use oil on them. The really course india stones don't seem to have that bad of a problem, but they remove metal so fast you're not really giving the stone a chance to clog.  

I haven't messed around with the newer ceramic stones much, other than the polishing stone (which didn't seem to need water), but the diamond stones seem to cut much faster with just a little bit of water.

I've always like this   Honing Guide

[Killdeer]

Billy, I don't remember diagramming sentences, I must be blocking an unpleasant memory!  

[Billy]

Da tangs we lern on dis sight nevr cees to uhmaz mee.
 I've got a plastic base, but then I use carbons and precuts .... for now. Good stuff to know. Thanx, Killy -  and it wasn't me drivin' that truck. I'm stuck in a truckstop in Ohio today, I ain't nowhere near Possum Squat, er Lick Skillet, Or even Puncuation Junction today.... Ya'll have a Gud'n til I get to check in again..

[Killdeer]

See ya on the Possum Squat flipflop, BillyBobBoy, ten-fo we down and gone!

Gawd I love that lingo!
  :rolleyes: