I must say that i did not get my elk this year. We had a great hunt. Called in a nice bull on our own that did not cooperate. The thrill of the hunt was awesome. My buddy and I actually high fived after the near kill. Maybe it is because I am 52 but I am enjoying the hunt far more than the kill these days. Being in the woods with a longbow, humping up and down mountains, reliving the days hunt with a good meal. It is all good. I am glad I found this forum...it is what the traditional way is all about.