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Rick McGowan
Trad Bowhunter
Posts: 878
Bison vitals picture
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August 13, 2007, 01:22:00 PM »
Anyone have a drawing of the heart/lung area on a bison?
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sar
Trad Bowhunter
Posts: 186
Re: Bison vitals picture
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August 13, 2007, 01:40:00 PM »
I'm not back home til tomorrow, but I can look at my "perfect shots" book, scan and send this week.
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Smallwood
Trad Bowhunter
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Re: Bison vitals picture
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August 13, 2007, 01:54:00 PM »
http://www.thbison.com/images/faq4.gif
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Rick McGowan
Trad Bowhunter
Posts: 878
Re: Bison vitals picture
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August 14, 2007, 10:06:00 AM »
Smallwood, thanks!
sar, I'd still like to see the one from the Perfect Shot if you can do it, Thanks!
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ChuckC
Trad Bowhunter
Posts: 6775
Re: Bison vitals picture
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August 15, 2007, 10:57:00 PM »
smallwood...is that pic accurate ? Those lungs are HUGE and the heart is almost out of the chest cavity.
ChuckC
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Danny Rowan
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Trad Bowhunter
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Re: Bison vitals picture
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August 15, 2007, 11:05:00 PM »
Yep, that pic is pretty accurate.Rick I hit the elbow and center punched the heart with a lam birch arrow tipped with a 200 gr ace head.Was using a Robertson Vision Falcon, 63#@28". 25 yard shot and he went about 20 yards. Also witnessed one shot dead center lungs that went about the same distance before he was down.
Danny
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Jay Kidwell and Glenn St. Charles
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Rick McGowan
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Posts: 878
Re: Bison vitals picture
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August 16, 2007, 08:14:00 AM »
Yeah that was my impression, the lungs are HUGE, but the heart is tiny and extremely low in the chest, a very strange combination. Usually animals with a large lung capacity have a big pump to go with it.
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Doug Campbell
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Re: Bison vitals picture
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August 16, 2007, 09:21:00 AM »
Rick, not to contradict Danny but I've probably gutted something over of 150 and shot more than a few of these critters and know where I'm coming from.
The heart is plenty big and the front third of it is nestled behind that leg bone. If you hit the lungs in the back third of what that pic shows you gonnna make a mess. The diaphram may be that far back but you are just looking at small lobs of lung that kinda wrap around the paunch, stay close to the shoulder.
One other caution is the hump can throw off your perception of things. More than once what has looked like a solid vital hit has resulted in a chase.
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Rick McGowan
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Re: Bison vitals picture
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August 16, 2007, 04:47:00 PM »
sar, you back home yet?
I believe you Doug, I know you are the man on bison! Thats why I really would like to get as much info as possible.
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Danny Rowan
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Re: Bison vitals picture
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August 16, 2007, 07:44:00 PM »
No problem Doug, I have only killed one and when I hit the elbow I was worried but had enough power to get through the bone and through the heart.
Danny
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Ray Hammond
Trad Bowhunter
Posts: 5824
Re: Bison vitals picture
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August 16, 2007, 07:51:00 PM »
Rick,
There is a book out called "THE PERFECT SHOT- NORTH AMERICAN GAME" by Craig Boddington. It's available on Amazon and other places, in paperback for about 12 bucks.
Best money you will ever spend, I think, and you will get the real accurate diagram you are looking for from that.
http://www.google.com/products?q=The+Perfect+Shot+North+America&hl=en&um=1&sa=X&oi=froogle&ct=title
here is a link to it
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Rick McGowan
Trad Bowhunter
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Re: Bison vitals picture
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August 17, 2007, 10:15:00 AM »
Darn Ray, don't you know I can't be throwing $12 around willy-nilly? I've still got to buy a new freezer for all the meat I'm going to get this year!
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Ray Hammond
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Re: Bison vitals picture
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August 17, 2007, 11:09:00 AM »
I hear you...well, you just gotta get more famous..when that happens, folks just send money to you for no reason...just cause your famous.
then 12 bucks becomes no object!!!
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“Courageous, untroubled, mocking and violent-that is what Wisdom wants us to be. Wisdom is a woman, and loves only a warrior.” - Friedrich Nietzsche
Rick McGowan
Trad Bowhunter
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Re: Bison vitals picture
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August 17, 2007, 03:24:00 PM »
You mean like Paris Hilton, Brittney Spears or Lindsey Lohan?
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Ray Hammond
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August 17, 2007, 03:33:00 PM »
yeah, exactly.
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sar
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August 17, 2007, 10:51:00 PM »
sorry it took so long...been getting crushed at work lately
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Leland
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Re: Bison vitals picture
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August 18, 2007, 01:03:00 PM »
sar thats a very accurate picture,hope you don't mind if I print off a copy.It's always easier to show someone then try to explain. Leland
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the Ferret
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August 18, 2007, 02:38:00 PM »
is it fair chase to shoot 2 legged Bison
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Rick McGowan
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Re: Bison vitals picture
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August 18, 2007, 03:50:00 PM »
sar, thanks thats awesome.
Mickey, yes, as long as you don't have more than two legs!
You know thats surprising, I always tell hunters to shoot water buffalo, straight up the middle of the leg, 1/4 of the way up from the bottom of the chest, that looks like the perfect shot on a bison also!
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Rick McGowan
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August 26, 2007, 09:25:00 AM »
tt for Bou'bound
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