Thanks for all the replys guys. I fancy myself a sharpening guru, been doing it for other folks since I was 13, knives, axes, broadheads, farm implements,. I have high speed buffing wheels with polishing grit from 180-600 for buffing guns before I hot blue them, puts a beyond razor sharp edge in a minute or less. Played with them some today, light strokes with a fine machinist file and a accusharp leaves them pretty good to go. I just wanted to see what you guys thought, try to learn something every day.