What ever happened to a Cedar arrow & 125gr BH

[DayTripper]

POC arrows with 125 Snuffers or 135 Zwickeys up front. Always.

I like to keep it simple. Anything more complicate than that and it will start to feel like works!!!!

[Friends call me Pac]

I'm making up a half dozen surewoods and they will be sporting 125 gr heads.  Had pass throughs on my first two deer with 125 gr heads but just had to experiment.  Kept going heavier and heavier but it seems I've come full circle.  Kind of like why I got started in trad in the first place.

[tradlongbow]

All I shoot is 125grain Magnus 2 blade broadheads.

[Lee Viv]

I'm shooting Zwickeys from poplar shafts. When I shot aluminum I shot Zwickeys as well. If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it!

[southernarcher]

That's all I shoot.

[Cookus]

POC's with the "new and improved" 120 grain Grizzlies for me!

[Rufus]

I played with carbons, EFOC and my old aluminum shafts shafts all summer long and the closer it got to hunting season I went right back to my woodies. I'm using Surewood shafts, and 125 gr. grizzlies and ribtechs. Always worked for me and I can hear nothing but a little "whump" when I shoot. The others, no matter how well tuned, make a bit of noise that bugs me. I shoot longbows, they may not be quit as noisy with recurves that are generally more center shot. Dunno.

[moleman]

Good post! Seems to me that sometimes we take something as pure and simple as traditional archery and turn it into a physics and scientific  nightmare, when in fact the tried and true wood shafts and 125 gr. heads have been bringing down big game for yrs.
Dont get me wrong, the advances in arrow and broadhead technology benefit us all, but sometimes i feel that we lose sight of the tools of the trade that have proven themselves time and time again, in the hands of folks such as Bear, Swinehart, Hill, Pearson, Ishi ,ETC ( you get my point).
Not being one to follow trends, and choosing the simpler, and more rewarding path of traditional archery, i choose not to not make a scientific experiment out of every trip to the range or field, i think ill stand pat with what works V.S what works, but requires a P.H.D to make it work.
History is our greatest teacher, so why not be its pupil?

[ishoot4thrills]

What's so high tech about a carbon arrow with 250 grains on the front end with a two blade head?      

Seems pretty simple to me.

[David Mitchell]

We gotta remember that Fred Bear was a great innovator and tinkerer. Somebody else figured out that if you put fiber glass on the limbs a bow would shoot "better" and last longer, etc. I wonder what Fred would be promoting if he were with us today.   :confused:   He would no doubt think ILF technology is the berries and I bet he would shoot carbons--just my opinion.

I actually find carbon arrows to be simpler and faster to build than woodies!

[DesertDude]

Originally posted by ishoot4thrills:
What's so high tech about a carbon arrow with 250 grains on the front end with a two blade head?      

Seems pretty simple to me.

Very Simple Same here also when I shoot carbons, I never ment for this post to be a Pro wood and carbon bad...  I was just remembering when most shot wood or aluminium arrows with 125-160 bh...

[jackdaw]

Right on DD....a 125 Magnus with a tapered port orford cedar and you're a tall dog in short grass...!! Shoots like a dart.......still love em'...

[myshootinstinks]

Use'm all the time, even for stumping.  When I break one, the aroma of the cedar brings back all the memories of good things.  Sort of like the scent of Hoppes #9 gun cleaning solvent, it's nostalgic.
   Last two deer have been taken w/ cedars.

[Widow's Son]

I also believe Fred Bear would be shooting carbons these days. He was very quick to embrace aluminum arrows. I still like cedar arrows. I shoot Beman MFXs out of my Widow with 250grs up front. They hit very hard. I do seem to break more carbons than woodies however. It seems that one small rock is enough to snap the end off a carbon. The woodie just sort of shakes it off.

[Shakes.602]

I agree DesertDude, it sure is fun making arrows!!  :cool:   I am making my pal Denny, that had the Longbow gifted to him, some POCs as we speak! They are drying in the utility room, haning from  THE  Worlds Greatest Invention: The Wooden Spring Clothespin!!     1,000,001 Uses for those simple but elegant contraptions!  

[Notrace]

DD,

I'm thinkin' you're 'remembering  when' is gathering the makin's of future lyrics for some good campfire song with friends.....

May the broadheads of diversity herein bear gifts to those who read.

Notrace

[Bob Stager]

Cedar and Zwickey Eskimo's are in my quiver

[gringol]

I think the woodies with 125 grn heads are out hunting, not braggin about all that FOC stuff and all the water buffalo that they haven't killed...  

[Knawbone]

I'm with Bob, cedar and Zwky eskimo's or Ace is all I use. Good old 10 percent FOC.        

[Ibow]

Originally posted by Shedrock:
 
330# bear taken down with my wimpy 52# longbow, light cedar shaft tipped with a 125 grain 3 blade. This was a pass-through. I have 100% confidence in cedar arrows and 125 gr heads. All my bows love 9-10 grains per pound, and cedar and other wood arrows with 125-160 up front does the trick.

Just sitting here reading through some old threads while I wait for our grandkids to wake up and this sure was an interesting one to say the least.

Bottom line for me is, I want consistency in my set up so that when those shooting slumps come from time to time, I know it's me and not the occasional arrow or two that's not matching up with the rest.

Besides all that stuff, Shedrock, this is the second pict of your bear I've seen and again, just wanted to say congrats one more time. THAT is a beautiful bear!