Climbers or Hang-ons for trad hunting ???

[skychief]

Which type stand do you prefer with your trad gear?

I have found my climbers are tough to shoot out of.

Maybe most of us prefer hang-ons....Thought I would ask.

If you have a favorite brand and model please let us know too.

Thanks, Skychief.

[Bob Morrison]

Climber, Timbertall. I can be in a different spot everytime I hunt.

[md126]

both but i love my climber. very versatile and comfortable. no problem shooting out of it vs a hang on. i just plan accordingly and put the seat a little lower.

for brand i prefer the Summit. best climber i've ever used..

[waiting4fall]

Before I was using a Summit and a Millenium, not anymore. Check this out.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7IAgwDkTc0&feature=plcp

[doubleo]

Lone Wolf hang on with climbing sticks. It's the only way to go on public land.

[MCNSC]

I use the Lone Wolf Assault with the Lone Wolf sticks. I put it up and take it down on almost every hunt. Although it does give me the option of leaving it in place if I plan to hunt the same place again.  I can put it in trees with limbs which really helps to be hid better. And with practice it is quieter to put up than climbers. It is rock solid and quiet when put up. With that said if purchasing a stand now I would take a close look at the Muddy Outdoors hang on and sticks.

[rolltidehunter]

Lock on!!!

[carbonflyr]

screaming eagle chain on stands for me , strong and silent!!

[stevewills]

ladder stands for me,hang ons,and climbers,depends where im hunting....

[AWPForester]

I put a thead up on a different site about this same thing.  What I am fixing to tell you is liable to make you think I am dingy but all I can say is if you try this you will never use another stand but a wrap around climber like the Summit Viper.  I know it is marketed as not the best for bowhunting, but it is if you do this.  the only shot yoou do not have is the one directly below the stand of your bow arm side.  Were talking a 3 square yard area.  No bigger than any other stands blind spot.

A climber with a bar aound it is the best tool for the trad hunter for several reasons.  First you are far safer, far more comfortabel, can use it as a gun rest when rifle hunting and the bar is your best friend, not your nemesis as most think

First get rid of the stock fold up back rest seat.  Buy you a Muddy Outdoors seat.  Then adjust the seat so that when you are seated the rail is 4 inches or so above hte seat causing you to be enclosed in the climbing bar.  This allows you to lock the climbing (top) part of the stand about waist level and still be comfortable when you set.

That bar at wiast level allows you to lean on it and get angles you cannot achieve with a barless stand.  At waist level where you are to bend it allows for you to lean on it and puts the whole shot process 10 inches or more out from the stand.  So instead of trying to tuck that long lower limb in above the platform, you are way out past it safe and secure to shoot tyour big toe of if you want to.

it works the same way on any angle or dise of the stand except your bow are side.  But the area that is unobtainable to your bow arm side out of ths climber is so small.  Smaller than any other stand even due to that bar and being able to utiliae it instead of staying away from.  The only way to routinely not hit your cables on your lock on's or the climbing aid is get it tucked up close to you instead of trying to stay away from it.  even on shots faarther away from the tree it acts as a very good stabalization thing making the shot that more rock solid.

i know this goes against conventinal wisdom but it really iis far superior to anything i have used.  And I have owned a bunch of them, most bowhuntiing models that worked ok but you had limited access in alot of areas to because you had to stay on the platform solid instead of being able to lean out real far for fear of falling out.

The bar also acts as a great safety cathc when set up this way allows you to have a great arm rest when looking thru bino's, or just setting like at a desk.  it also offers you the ability to catch a little shut eye with no fear of falling out.  it really is the bombdidgity.

So before you buy anything touted as a an open faced bowhunter, I implore you to try this.  It has been the best thing ever for everyone that i have shown it too.  If you try it you will see.  God BLess

[R. Graddy]

Sounds good awpforester.  Do you have any pics of your set up?

[Cory Mattson]

we use chippewa wedgloc hang on stands and their climbing sticks for Blackbeard - we use Lone Wolf climbers - both types we have zero problems with stykbows.
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[RedShaft]

Hang on. But I use my lone wolf hand climber most. As I move around allot.  You can shoot out of it easily.

[jarradmears]

Lone wolf hand climber and millenium lock ons.

[skychief]

Originally posted by AWPForester:
I put a thead up on a different site about this same thing.  What I am fixing to tell you is liable to make you think I am dingy but all I can say is if you try this you will never use another stand but a wrap around climber like the Summit Viper.  I know it is marketed as not the best for bowhunting, but it is if you do this.  the only shot yoou do not have is the one directly below the stand of your bow arm side.  Were talking a 3 square yard area.  No bigger than any other stands blind spot.

A climber with a bar aound it is the best tool for the trad hunter for several reasons.  First you are far safer, far more comfortabel, can use it as a gun rest when rifle hunting and the bar is your best friend, not your nemesis as most think

First get rid of the stock fold up back rest seat.  Buy you a Muddy Outdoors seat.  Then adjust the seat so that when you are seated the rail is 4 inches or so above hte seat causing you to be enclosed in the climbing bar.  This allows you to lock the climbing (top) part of the stand about waist level and still be comfortable when you set.

That bar at wiast level allows you to lean on it and get angles you cannot achieve with a barless stand.  At waist level where you are to bend it allows for you to lean on it and puts the whole shot process 10 inches or more out from the stand.  So instead of trying to tuck that long lower limb in above the platform, you are way out past it safe and secure to shoot tyour big toe of if you want to.

it works the same way on any angle or dise of the stand except your bow are side.  But the area that is unobtainable to your bow arm side out of ths climber is so small.  Smaller than any other stand even due to that bar and being able to utiliae it instead of staying away from.  The only way to routinely not hit your cables on your lock on's or the climbing aid is get it tucked up close to you instead of trying to stay away from it.  even on shots faarther away from the tree it acts as a very good stabalization thing making the shot that more rock solid.

i know this goes against conventinal wisdom but it really iis far superior to anything i have used.  And I have owned a bunch of them, most bowhuntiing models that worked ok but you had limited access in alot of areas to because you had to stay on the platform solid instead of being able to lean out real far for fear of falling out.

The bar also acts as a great safety cathc when set up this way allows you to have a great arm rest when looking thru bino's, or just setting like at a desk.  it also offers you the ability to catch a little shut eye with no fear of falling out.  it really is the bombdidgity.

So before you buy anything touted as a an open faced bowhunter, I implore you to try this.  It has been the best thing ever for everyone that i have shown it too.  If you try it you will see.  God BLess

Sounds interesting.   Do you have any pictures of this setup?

Are you saying that you put the Muddy seat so that you are facing the tree Suspended by the "climbing bar"?

Thanks!

[Don Batten]

I have to second the summit. I never really liked them until this year. I got access to a large track of land and have used mine alot this season. hands down the most comfortable stand ive sat in. I find myself gettting up to stretch and look at my watch and it's 11 or 12. I never could sit that long in a loc on. Got a lonewolf that works good for 2 4 hr sits. and just got a guido web. I'm gonna have my sticks in place at predetermined spots for next season and use this alot.  good luck

[Easykeeper]

I have both a Lone Wolf hand climber and hang on with sticks.  I also like the two Leverage ladder stands I have.

[RM81]

I picked up a Summit Razor SD (sit and climb) at the end of last year and like it so far.  It has the bar to rest on while you're climbing, but then it folds down and out of the way when you get all set up.  I tried a Summit Open Shot (hand climber) before this one and had some trouble getting up and down the tree comfortably, especially with a lot of cold weather gear on.  I made it up the tree, but the sit and climbs are so much easier to climb with.

I also use a few lock ons, but if I could only choose one, it would be a climber.

[Marc B.]

I like LocOns. The Windwalker and a few screw in steps is the lightest way I've found to hunt on the go and is comfortable.

[Cory Mattson]

Justin great information. I agree with this - I had a large summit with a wrap around bar and it never held me back from shooting and it was VERY comfortable. At the time I set trees within 20 yards of my boat using water entry so it was a snap. I bought a lone wolf and love it now but had excellent results like you say.