thank you guys I'll do some checking with these folks and see who can help me out, very important that its made for my knife which I can send till its completed.. mojostick,,, I agree with you 100percent on that,, also take into condieration with a loose quiver if you fall or stumble forward you could easily get a few arrows stuck in the face or neck with a loose back quiver,, tight to the back and smaller for the essential amount,, heres trick to ad to the next custom amde back quiver like you described is broahdhead sheaths inside with raw hide tether cords just long enough so you can sheath the broadhead at the top of the quiver and then pull the cord out through a tight hole on the bottom of the quiver as you put in the arrow and finally tie a small knot in the raw hide so it won't come out with the broadhead when you take the arrows out,, well 4 or 5 tight holes with the rawhides eventually tied together under the bottom of the quiver then again as you remove an arrow it pulls the broadhead from the little sheath there inside and no dull broadheads.