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Author Topic: ?? Stalker recurves ??  (Read 276 times)

Offline mountain lion

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?? Stalker recurves ??
« on: November 10, 2012, 11:40:00 AM »
I've been looking at these bows for awhile now and I was wandering how they shot, how is the shape of the grip and the hand shock? Thank you!
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Offline Jack Guard

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Re: ?? Stalker recurves ??
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2012, 01:09:00 PM »
Juan, do a quick search for "Stalker bows" or "stalker recurves"

There are a couple of great threads talking about Souths bows.  

I personally own one and its in my top three bows.  

You wont be disappointed.
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Offline Ydanny

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Re: ?? Stalker recurves ??
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2012, 02:40:00 PM »
I had a Static that I traded.  Only reason I traded it was because I ordered a medium grip and it was to high for me.  If I had gotten a low grip I would still have it.  The grip was also larger than my RER's and A&H's that I have.  Not a bad thing, just different.  I'm sure South could make what ever grip you want.
They are great shooting bows and my static was as fast as my RER XR and as quit.  The fit and finish was excellent and probably better than many of the more popular brand customs on the market that I've had.
I'm glad I tried a Stalker and will likely order another one in the future.

Offline FerretWYO

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Re: ?? Stalker recurves ??
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2012, 02:47:00 PM »
They are great bows. I have one that is with south right now getting new limbs.  They are very respectable in the area of speed they are stable and have no noticable handshock.  

The grip is a matter of opinion with anybow. If you have a tyle that you like let south know and he can get as close to it as posible.  

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Offline Jake Diebolt

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Re: ?? Stalker recurves ??
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2012, 04:13:00 PM »
I've been eying these bows myself - my wife has begun to accuse me of viewing 'bow porn' whenever she walks past.

Sadly it will be some time before I can afford a new bow - but I think I can wait.

Offline steadman

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Re: ?? Stalker recurves ??
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2012, 04:27:00 PM »
Here is a thread I did on my new Hybrid Static! Awesome bow!!   :thumbsup:  

  http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=122599

South also does a test drive program so you can try before you buy. Although you'll need to give him a week or so to get back to the shop, he's chasing whitetail until then  :)
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Offline huntnmuleys

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Re: ?? Stalker recurves ??
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2012, 06:14:00 PM »
i havent shot one, but mine is on order and cant wait to get it!
is it September yet??

Offline stickbowhntr

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Re: ?? Stalker recurves ??
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2012, 06:17:00 PM »
some pretty bows and From what I hear smooth shooters.

Offline threeunder

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Re: ?? Stalker recurves ??
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2012, 07:20:00 PM »
I've got one of his Tracker Longbows.....Excellent!

You won't be disappointed.
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Offline Nathan Killen

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Re: ?? Stalker recurves ??
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2012, 07:20:00 PM »
Ive got 2 and will be ordering a 3rd around the first of the year ! Ive owned a few other brands and Stalker is my favorite ! South is a great guy to talk with as well.
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Offline Nathan Killen

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Re: ?? Stalker recurves ??
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2012, 07:22:00 PM »
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Originally posted by threeunder:
I've got one of his Tracker Longbows.....Excellent!

You won't be disappointed.
Ken, i see your from grundy !Im from Castlewood and Id like to see that tracker !
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Offline Matty

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Re: ?? Stalker recurves ??
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2012, 09:38:00 PM »
My favorite recurve to date. Hands down. And I'm someone who prefers a longbow typically.  Hand settles right into the throat. And there is zero hand shock.

Offline Wyostikbo

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Re: ?? Stalker recurves ??
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2012, 10:31:00 PM »
I have a static and I love it. South will work with you on your grip I'm sure and just about anything else. Call him up and tell him what your looking for and he will probably have one you can test drive. That's what I did with the static and it was well worth the price of shipping.
South is reall easy to talk to so don't hesitate to call him.
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Re: ?? Stalker recurves ??
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2012, 10:41:00 PM »
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Originally posted by threeunder:
I've got one of his Tracker Longbows.....Excellent!

You won't be disappointed.
I donot own one but have shot the longbow. It is awesome!

Bisch

Offline jlowrey75

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Re: ?? Stalker recurves ??
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2012, 01:52:00 AM »
I have a "Surge". Great shooting bow,fast and very smooth
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Offline Ryan Sanpei

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Re: ?? Stalker recurves ??
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2012, 02:14:00 AM »
If you haven't seen these yet, here are a few posts about Stalkers.  Let me know if I can provide you with further information.  Thank you!

  http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=122083  

  http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=121303#000000  

  http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=117694  

  http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=110578  


Here's an old blog post that I wrote comparing a Dynamic Stalker to a Static Stalker.  It's just a "copy & paste"

"Although I’ve shot a few “static” tipped recurves in the past, I’ve primarily shot “dynamic” tipped recurves.  I’m not a bowyer, nor do I claim to be an expert on bow designs.  What I can do is give opinions, theories and personal data based on my experience.

How can I best describe a Static Stalker?  Take for example a reflex-deflex longbow, now just add some curve to the limb tips.  So what’s the benefits?  In most cases reflex-deflex longbow limbs are stable, quiet, smooth drawing and have little to no hand shock.  Now if built correctly, a static tipped recurve could have all of these benefits plus a little more speed due to the curved tips that should add a little more preload which in turn may add to stored energy. In essence, you’ve built the “perfect” recurve, if there’s such a thing. LOL!  But, if not built correctly, you could have a very unstable limb design with little to no benefits.  Additionally if the design is too radical, you may be wrestling with your bow to get it strung.


DYNAMIC LIMBS AT BRACE

       

DYNAMIC LIMBS AT FULL DRAW

       

STATIC LIMBS AT BRACE

       

STATIC LIMBS AT FULL DRAW

       

I think that we can safely say that not all bows are created equal and it would be highly unfair to compare “apples to oranges”.  So for this collection of data, I compared a 56″ Static Stalker Recurve to an Original Stalker Recurve.  Both bows had the same fourteen strand 8125 string with 22 strands in the pads.  The silencers on both strings were of the same material and set equidistance apart. Each bow was set at a brace of 7 3/8″.

The first thing that Craig and I did was to double check the poundage of the two bows.  The Original Stalker scaled at 52 @ 26" while the Static scaled at 53 @ 26". The Original Stalker was built at 53# but lost a pound over the years due to my abuse.  .  Although a pound in difference, I felt that we would be able to make a fair assessment of the two bows.

Secondly, we compared the begining and end feel.  First we scaled the first three inches of draw.  The Static read 6.5#,11.5# and 16#.  The Original read 7#, 12.5# and 17#.  Then we scaled that last few inches, from 24" to 26".  The Static read 47#, 50#, 53# while the Original read 46#, 49# and 52#.  These 56" bows are designed for archers of a shorter draw, so I felt that it was only fair to keep it within those draw length parameters.

For all the draw weights, I used an Easton hand held scale and Craig ensured that I stopped on the correct marks consistently.  We checked each measurement a few times to ensure validity.

Next we took both bows to the bales to check for speed.  Everything on the bows were exactly the same except for the one pound difference at 26".  Fortunately the arrow tuned perfectly out of the two bows, so I shot the exact arrow out of both. We set up our pro chony and again Craig watched to see that I was releasing the arrow at the same mark every time.  We took a few readings and here are the results.  The Static shot 181fps and the Dynamic shot 177fps.  So given the one pound difference, both bows were very similar in speed.  I don’t know the exact fps that the extra one pound would’ve added, but based on past experience, it’s safe to say that the speeds were very similar and the Static may have edged the Original by 1-2 fps if both were at the exact draw weight.

Now for my personal opinion of the sound and the shot.  Both bows were set up with the same silencing materials and positioned in the exact same spots on the bow as well as the string.  The Dynamic Stalker was not loud but everyone agreed that the Static was quieter.  As for the shot, both bows didn’t have "hand shock" but the Dynamic has a little more limb vibration after the shot.  Everyone who shot both bows expressed the same opinions as I.


So is a dynamic tip better than a static tip? Better than what and better for who?  Again, this goes back to “using what works for you”.  Hopefully I’ve given enough information to provide a better understanding of the two but remember, this comparison was only between bows of the same company.  As for myself, I love both of my Stalkers, but the Dynamic may have to sit on the bow rack for a while."

Offline mountain lion

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Re: ?? Stalker recurves ??
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2012, 10:35:00 AM »
Thanks a lot guys, you have been very helpful.
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Black Widow PSA lll 60" 52@28"

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Re: ?? Stalker recurves ??
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2012, 10:59:00 AM »
Nathan,
Sent you a PM
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Offline Blacktail101

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Re: ?? Stalker recurves ??
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2012, 05:31:00 PM »
Hey Ryan..you rock ! thanks well done

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Re: ?? Stalker recurves ??
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2012, 06:53:00 PM »
Great bows. The grip is right for me, and I KNOW South will modify each grip as needed. My bows have excellent craftsmanship, plenty of speed, stable/consistent, and very quiet. Large selection of wood combos and some unique veneers. 2 thumbs up for Stalker Stickbows and South Cox.   :thumbsup:      :thumbsup:
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