Thanks everyone, Hey Ben, Iv' read a lot of your threads on here and respect your opinion as well as others people on here of course. I'm thinking my next Hill might be either a Redman or a cheetah in a 66" length [25" draw]. One factor thats important to me is the phisical weight of the bow. If I were to have one built with a myrtle riser, which model would be lighter,smoother drawing, and possibly better cast, the Redman, Halfbreed,or Cheetah. Or is there another limb wood that would be lighter ect. I know I should be asking the bowyer these questions, but I respect your views.