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Author Topic: Draw weight for elk  (Read 472 times)

Offline OregonBlacktail

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Draw weight for elk
« on: November 22, 2012, 03:05:00 PM »
Just wondering what draw weight is most commonly used for elk hunting. Not the minimun required for your state but what weight do you use and how successful are you.
Thanks
Mike

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Re: Draw weight for elk
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2012, 03:16:00 PM »
53-57#'s is my preferred weight. You measure penetration by how deep in the dirt the arrow is after it passes through...

Offline The Hawk

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Re: Draw weight for elk
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2012, 03:24:00 PM »
62lbs@ 30" with a scary sharp Zwickey on a 600gn (total weight) carbon or cedar shaft, will pass on through.  Sharp and accurate are important.

Offline Bjorn

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Re: Draw weight for elk
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2012, 03:40:00 PM »
50# @ 28 worked for me and also for Adam-Abowyer broadheads and 630 gn (total) Doug Fir arrow. Shot placement will trump everything else.   :archer2:

Offline Benny74

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Re: Draw weight for elk
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2012, 03:51:00 PM »
I was wondering the same thing about draw weight and arrows for elk and other big game.  The comments so far mention pass through. Would it not be better if the deadly part of the arrow, the broadhead, stopped halfway through and continued to do damage to shorten the animal's suffering and hasten takedown?

In December's traditional bowhunter magazine there is an excellent article on that subject.  The author tested very primitive bow,arrow and stone broadhead designs that were very small and light.  The results were enlightening.  The very low poundage, lightweight arrow and tiny stone broadhead shot clean through full size whitetail deer.  The broadheads, mostly known as bird shot broadheads were about the size of a thumbnail and capable of taking down big game.

This would suggest that a well placed shot at typical traditional archery hunting distance limits is far more critical than bow weight or arrow weight.  

I would not sling that ancient bow and arrow combo at an elk or grizzly but that leads one to believe that a 45# trad bow with matched and balanced arrow/broadhead combo is more than enough to do what you intend to do.

Offline ranger 3

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Re: Draw weight for elk
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2012, 04:22:00 PM »
Mike Treadway took a bull Elk with a 41# LB
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Re: Draw weight for elk
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2012, 04:27:00 PM »
The most you can shoot with confidence in your distance comfort zone.....Sharp broadhead and a well tuned arrow. Shot placement , shot placement and shot placement!!!!!!!   :thumbsup:   In fact that's true for whatever your hunting.....from pigs to bears and all in between.
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Offline wapitirod

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Re: Draw weight for elk
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2012, 05:23:00 PM »
Well since you live here in OR you know the regs show 50# as a minimum and I think that's probably a good starting point.  I shoot 72# to 80# with 680gr arrows but I know that it's not necessary. I agree with Ron, shoot the heaviest your comfortable with and that you shoot well.
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Offline rolltidehunter

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Re: Draw weight for elk
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2012, 10:00:00 PM »
Took a bull 53@26 550 gr arrow. Sharp grizzly 2 blade

Offline David Yukon

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Re: Draw weight for elk
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2012, 11:51:00 PM »
Up here in the Yukon, 45# is the minimum, for Moose, so I guess if it's good for moose, it must be good for elks.... But I like Ron's comment!!

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Re: Draw weight for elk
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2012, 12:02:00 AM »
I've gotten 4 with 55# long bows and very sharp broad heads.
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Offline duncan idaho

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Re: Draw weight for elk
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2012, 12:56:00 AM »
Start with your states regulations. "most" hunters dont use 45# bows for elk unless they are dealing with an injury. "Bird Points" or very small stone points will kill deer. a .22cal rifle will kill one also, if placed correctly. Train to use a traditional bow of enough "caliber" that you dont have to worry about penetration.
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Offline bobman

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Re: Draw weight for elk
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2012, 07:41:00 AM »
complete pass thru's are normally much easier to track and IMO the blood trail will be shorter

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Re: Draw weight for elk
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2012, 08:19:00 AM »
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Originally posted by ron w:
The most you can shoot with confidence in your distance comfort zone.....Sharp broadhead and a well tuned arrow. Shot placement , shot placement and shot placement!!!!!!!     :thumbsup:     In fact that's true for whatever your hunting.....from pigs to bears and all in between.
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Dont forget, the best shot placement in the world can change after you send the arrow and then the animal moves. A beautiful double lung can turn to a thickly muscled shoulder in the blink of an eye if the animal flinches on you...they are constantly moving. Thats where the most you can accurately shoot will be your friend.
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Offline Tree Killer

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Re: Draw weight for elk
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2012, 09:25:00 AM »
I've always shot a 60# recurve for elk. Lighter weight bows will work just fine, the biggest factor will all animals you shoot no matter the weight is shot placement.
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Offline overbo

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Re: Draw weight for elk
« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2012, 09:50:00 AM »
IMO,bigger animal ,means larger kill zone,means one can stretch their shooting distance,which means the need for more horsepower.

If one can stay decipline a lighter weight bow(45-60lbs) is fine.Once you start to stretch past 25yrds.60+lbs is my recipe and arro weight 9+ grs per lbs.

Offline wixwood

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Re: Draw weight for elk
« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2012, 10:06:00 AM »
60# spine 11/32 cedar shaft footed w/ cocobola raw weight about 450. Cut to 29" and tapered last 10" 160 grain L Grizzly (matches fletch). Overall weight finished right at 600, spine 57#. It shoots through a 55# Herman like a dart and put down a cow moose this fall. Not a pass through but both lungs and done. Same set up on Texas pigs; 1 double lung and done another I shot a little higher (59# Horne bow) and broke it's spine. I have since retired from shooting the 59#er. I am so much more comfortable and confident w/ the 55# range and confidence/ accuracy is what it is all about.
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Offline OregonBlacktail

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Re: Draw weight for elk
« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2012, 12:28:00 PM »
Thanks for your input. It looks like most of you are drawing in the mid to upper 50's for elk. I'm currently drawing 53# pretty well. I would like to be a bit higher but it doesn't look I would need to be.
Thanks again
Mike

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Re: Draw weight for elk
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2012, 03:02:00 AM »
Mike,

Just to remind you, Fred Eichler has taken every recognized species of North American Big Game with a 54# Palmer recurve, including the big bears. An elk is "softer" than some of those other species and certainly does not require a heavier bow than 53#. Nothing wrong with more power, but you sure don't need it. What you need is to be able to shoot a good, well-tuned arrow with a sturdy, sharp broadhead out of your bow and accurately hit the elk in a vital area at the correct angle. Then you must be able to track the elk to where it died, so you can recover it. Buying the right bow is the easy part, and you have accomplished that mission.

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Re: Draw weight for elk
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2012, 07:48:00 AM »
I had a bad shot on a Elk this year in New Mexico. I was in a Double Bull Blind over a water hole and it was tight shooting. I do not know what happened but I hit my Bull a little front and a little high. Both bad places on a Elk. i have killed 4 P&Y Bulls with the wheel bow but this shot with my 49 @ 28 ACS only penetrated 2 or 3 ". I draw 29 and that is close to 52 @ 29. 550 grain arrow. 2 Blade very sharp Werewolf Broadhead by Eclispe. I watched this Bull herd his cows around in a meadow for 30 minutes after I hit him with my arrow hanging out of his shoulder. Very sickening feeling after 10 days of chasing Bulls. The key is shot placement like everyone says. I guess there may be a Trad Bow out there with enough Horse Power to get thru that shoulder Blade. I most likely could not shoot it. Placement is the key.
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