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Author Topic: barge cement alternative?????  (Read 370 times)

Offline old_goat2

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barge cement alternative?????
« on: December 06, 2012, 01:38:00 PM »
did a search on here for glue for side plates and rugs and barge cement was the hands down winner from that research. However I've been to all the normal places and can't find any here in Denver, only place I haven't been into yet was Ace Hardware. So whats a good alternative, I did see some Dap Contact cement, would that work?? Anything better, my brother inlaw gave me some 527 glue, but it mentions several times not to get on varnished surfaces.
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Offline YORNOC

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Re: barge cement alternative?????
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2012, 01:53:00 PM »
Barge is available at Ace. But you can use less permanent adhesives for rug plates. There are spray ahesives, rubber contact cement, etc. that wll hold but not mar the finish of your bow.
Even Elmers glue will do nicely and flake off one day when ready to change it out.
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Re: barge cement alternative?????
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2012, 02:03:00 PM »
Contact adhesive or double-sided tape. The contact adhesive cleans up better but doesn't hold up real long especially with changing temperatures.  The double-sided carpet tape works excellent but it takes some work to clean it up when replacing the rest material.

Offline Kituwa

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Re: barge cement alternative?????
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2012, 02:05:00 PM »
I use Shoe Goo, i think its about the same thing as barge cement. You get it in the shoe section at wally world.

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Re: barge cement alternative?????
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2012, 02:09:00 PM »
3 rivers archery. Be careful not to use something that will wreck your finish

Offline ron w

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Re: barge cement alternative?????
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2012, 02:51:00 PM »
Any rubber contact cement will work, if you can't find Barge at ACE hardware use their brand of contact....it works well!
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Re: barge cement alternative?????
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2012, 02:56:00 PM »
Would you consider using the soft side of velcro (hook and loop) material for rests and/or side plates?  So many use it....Works awesome...... If so,  its peel and stick = problem solved,  no worries about wrecked bow finishes   :archer:

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Re: barge cement alternative?????
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2012, 05:45:00 PM »
Prit or Uhu glue stick works great. And you can get one or the other at most any place that has school supplies or stationary.
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Offline raghorn

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Re: barge cement alternative?????
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2012, 06:30:00 PM »
Ace has Weldwood contact cement.

Offline old_goat2

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Re: barge cement alternative?????
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2012, 07:38:00 PM »
Just bought some of the weldwood at Ace, I'll give it a try, thanks guys.
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Re: barge cement alternative?????
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2012, 08:42:00 PM »
velcro is all i use anymore works great for me

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Re: barge cement alternative?????
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2012, 09:00:00 PM »
Yeah, there is still Barge available, but they took out the solvent that made it special because idiot kids were huffin it and going brain dead...

Gee...another good product bites the dust.  From reports, the "new" stuff sticks like spit!  :(

Barge never hurt any finish on any of my bows and you could remove it... it was like "super duper" rubber cement.

I did learn that leathr shops can still get the good stuff in large cans for commercial use...

If it only had a decent shelf life after being opened...    :nono:
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Re: barge cement alternative?????
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2012, 09:35:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Doc Nock:
Yeah, there is still Barge available, but they took out the solvent that made it special because idiot kids were huffin it and going brain dead...

Gee...another good product bites the dust.  From reports, the "new" stuff sticks like spit!   :(  

Barge never hurt any finish on any of my bows and you could remove it... it was like "super duper" rubber cement.

I did learn that leathr shops can still get the good stuff in large cans for commercial use...

If it only had a decent shelf life after being opened...     :nono:  
Yeah, I read that on some reviews of the current barge cement some people left on Ace Hardware's website, they took the Tolulene out of it.
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Re: barge cement alternative?????
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2012, 09:40:00 PM »
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Originally posted by rick7:
velcro is all i use anymore works great for me
Yes, that is on my shopping list too, want to pre-cut some and put in my pack in case my rug or side plate decide to just pop off like they almost did the other day when I was hunting. But I like the fur a little better, mainly a looks thing, I know it doesn't work any better:)
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Re: barge cement alternative?????
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2012, 05:33:00 AM »
The Weldwood will work just like Barge for you, and you get a lot more for your money.
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Re: barge cement alternative?????
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2012, 06:59:00 AM »
After trying many differant adhesives and getting a tip from Rick Welch, I now use nothing but double sided carpet tape, the fabric kind,you can get it at Lowes. this is the best stuff ever, cut it to size of sideplate,rest, apply and the best part is you can use the tape to build out the sideplate for tuning or to get the bow to shoot where your looking. just pull the sideplate down slowly and it will come right off and leave no sticky residue,add another peice of tape put it back and shoot again.There is not a better way to install the sideplate or arrow rest, once you try it you will never use anything else, and its not expensive.
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Re: barge cement alternative?????
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2012, 08:25:00 AM »
I couldn't find any Barge cement at Ace either. They had something called Pliobond that I used. I have no idea if it will hurt the finish or not.
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Re: barge cement alternative?????
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2012, 08:49:00 AM »
There are three Hobby Lobbys in Denver, they all carry barge cement. I cut the 40% off coupon out of their ad in the paper when I go shopping for barge cement.

I don't have a problem with the new stuff, sticks just like the old for me. I use it to glue leather handles on my selfbows.

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Re: barge cement alternative?????
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2012, 08:56:00 AM »
Tandy still has Barge in the 2oz tubes.  They also sell their own brand in an 8oz can with brush inside the can.  The can is what I use for doing leathercrafting and for side plates, and for putting handle wraps on bows.  I've had good success getting the cans to last by coating the inside of the lid with Vaseline when I first open them.  That way it keeps the air from getting in and causing the cement from getting thick!

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Re: barge cement alternative?????
« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2012, 09:56:00 AM »
I just use Duco Cement, same as what I glue on feathers with.
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