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Author Topic: Looking for a Puppy  (Read 930 times)

Offline Big Ed

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Looking for a Puppy
« on: December 20, 2012, 01:32:00 PM »
Looking for a pup or possible puppies to train to blood trail. I am looking for a good bloodline or family history with blood trailing. Any info would be greatly appreciated,

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Re: Looking for a Puppy
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2012, 01:51:00 PM »
Ed, I use my beagle an she is awesome. When hunting rabbits she doesn't track or chase deer.
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Re: Looking for a Puppy
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2012, 01:52:00 PM »
Ed

You first need to decide on a breed and go from there.  You'll live with the dog everyday for 12 years or so, but only track with him a dozen times or so a year.  I'll send you a PM concerning Teckels and a person to talk to, but I don't know if you are interested in Dachshunds or not.

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Re: Looking for a Puppy
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2012, 01:54:00 PM »
Oh, and also, unless you have a lot of experience with tracking dogs I wouldn't worry about "puppies" plural...doing one right, with enough real tracks to allow him to develop, is PLENTY of work!

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Re: Looking for a Puppy
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2012, 02:03:00 PM »
You only want to use the dog for tracking blood trails one would first think Blood Hound. If any other uses than more options for you.
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Re: Looking for a Puppy
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2012, 02:40:00 PM »
My Lion & Bear hunting buddies from New Mexico sent me home with a Leopard Catahula Puppy. They claim they are wonderfull pets and can be trained to Trail Anything. I have him just as a pet but he runs around all day with his nose to the ground.

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Re: Looking for a Puppy
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2012, 02:48:00 PM »
Hi Ed,if your interested in a mini dachshund get ahold of Teddy Moritz in New Jersey. She has a great working line of them. Her dogs are the foundation dogs for alot of the working mini dachs breeders. I've hunted over quite a few dogs from her line. If you're interested let me know and I can get you her contact info from a friend of mine.

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Re: Looking for a Puppy
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2012, 03:09:00 PM »
Black mouth cur...... Deer blood trailing

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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2012, 03:22:00 PM »
I have a mountain feist....bred to hunt squirrels, but will track a mouse throgh a blizzard.....any dog can be taught to blood trail if YOU are willing to put the time in.....
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Re: Looking for a Puppy
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2012, 04:30:00 PM »
Ed, check out the United Blood Trackers site. Unfortunately you have to be a member to access the breed discussions, but you can pull down a list of guys willing to track in your area. Give them a call. All are willing (eager?) to talk about their breed and maybe give you some tips. Might be some close that you can visit.

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Re: Looking for a Puppy
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2012, 04:34:00 PM »
Jeff Green at Green Ranch (vom Schlussstein Kennel) has a beautiful litter of drahthaar puppies right now. He just sent me pics, and they are fabulous. He's located outside Everett, PA. Great guy and fine family. I have 2 dogs from his kennel, and they have incredible hunting desire and abilities.

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Re: Looking for a Puppy
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2012, 05:07:00 PM »
I've been interested in wirehaired dachshunds for some time and found a website devoted to tracking.  Being specialists, they are called Tracking Teckels.  Check out  www.trackingteckels.com

They reportedly have used them to track deer and other game.
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Re: Looking for a Puppy
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2012, 06:23:00 PM »
I have no experience with either but can at least put 2 breeds on your radar that Ive read a bit about. Jagd terriers are a tiny little beast with the tenacity of a wolverine but in a 10 lb package. Also a Bavarian bloodhound which I read a little bit about when I was looking for a dog. Like I said, dont know much about them but they might be a lead for you.

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Re: Looking for a Puppy
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2012, 06:39:00 PM »
Our "mutt", Tumo, (1/4 bassett, 1/4 beagle, 1/4 Shar-pei and who knows what else!) has been trained to blood trail since he was 8 weeks old. Now at 6 he is slower and even more tenacious.  Point being, ANY dog will do as long as YOU are willing to put in the effort.  Follow the advice of John Jeanneney's book and you will know quite soon if you have a real tracker.

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Re: Looking for a Puppy
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2012, 06:40:00 PM »
Ed, be sure to introduce us to your new addition.

I dont know much about them but i knew a guy here in NY that had a dachshund and had the most recoveries for many years. Not sure if his record was ever broken.  He was in NY deer search.  

I know his dog was getting old and he bought a wire haired dachshund, I guess the new dog wasnt as good as the old one. The wire hairs were supposed to be better at that sort of thing.

I have sen pictures of Kevin's Dogs.  They are my type of pups.
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Re: Looking for a Puppy
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2012, 06:53:00 PM »
I would go for a black mouthed cur. Best blood tracking dog I have ever seen. My families current squirrel dog does a better than average job at tracking deer. She is a West Siberian Lika.
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Re: Looking for a Puppy
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2012, 07:36:00 PM »
The place we hunt in Texas the farmer uses Blue Lacey's.  they are sweet dogs and do a great job.  They have a little coyote in them and look just like it when they run
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Re: Looking for a Puppy
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2012, 08:12:00 PM »
Keep in mind that tracking in the Midwest or East you will be tracking on lead - most folks use a 10 meter or 30 foot lead.  In the South and Texas most people track off lead, and the breeds used different places work better for one situation or another.  Remember too that you will be following the dog...which is following the deer...which will go thru the nastiest places they can find.  One of the advantages to a smaller dog is that you don't have to waterski thru the multiflora  rose thickets...my hat is off to guys that track in the thickets with a big dog.  I can't imagine being pulled thru the stuff we go into behind a 120 lb bloodhound!

Check into the prey drive of the various breeds and breeder's dogs too...this is a balancing act... you WANT strong prey drive for tracking, but if you have a really strongly prey focused dog - a good hunting Teckel or a well bred Jagd, for instance - forget about keeping a cat around.  For us this doesn't matter, but if we brought a cat into the house with Oskar I suspect it would be in small pieces within about 15 minutes!  The dog needs to fit YOUR situation - these working breeds, from what I've been exposed to at least, are NOTHING like the beagles and hounds I grew up around.

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Re: Looking for a Puppy
« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2012, 08:34:00 PM »
Ryan hit the nail square on the head, go with one of the smaller breeds. Getting dragged through the brush by a horse isn't any fun at all. By far and away the teckel/daschund breeds are the very best. I have used a jagdterrier for a few years. They are great dogs but their nose isn't as cold as the fore mentioned dogs. Jagds are a ball of fire and have outstanding hunting instincts. If you are looking for a small dog that will tackle anything, this breed is for you. Hunters use them to run everything from rabbits to bear.
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Re: Looking for a Puppy
« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2012, 08:52:00 PM »
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Check into the prey drive of the various breeds and breeder's dogs too...this is a balancing act... you WANT strong prey drive for tracking, but if you have a really strongly prey focused dog - a good hunting Teckel or a well bred Jagd, for instance - forget about keeping a cat around.  For us this doesn't matter, but if we brought a cat into the house with Oskar I suspect it would be in small pieces within about 15 minutes!  The dog needs to fit YOUR situation - these working breeds, from what I've been exposed to at least, are NOTHING like the beagles and hounds I grew up around.
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I'd disagree with this. I've seen some really hard hunting dachshunds that are actually kept as house dogs also.I've seen them get along with the famlies other dogs,cats and even a parrot. The jagds I've seen are pretty hard dogs and I don't think I'd trust them 100% with anything smaller than them.Same goes for the good Patterdales I've seen.That said,if they're raised around them from pups it would probably work out.My dog was raised with my birds from 8 weeks old,he's very trustworthy around them.He'll go through a window after a coon and will pile right into a 100lb dog if it comes in our yard,he's a whopping 28 pounds.
 

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