Have you tried the Hush Puppy silencers? I have 2 TF's,For my style of shooting I found I had to set brace height at 8 and 7/8" inches to get the bows as quiet as possible. I brace my PSA's at 8 5/8" to 8 3/4". All my Widows are Quiet when completely tuned (brace height,nock height,string silencer placement and bare shaft tuned). I have Gray Hush Puppy on at least 4 of my bows, I only use 12 strands top and bottom, then trim/shape with sharp scissors. I have only used the Black Widow D97 strings, other friends use a different type of non Dacron material with good success but I just buy the "stock" BW strings.