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Author Topic: what wont this be ok for ?  (Read 546 times)

Offline graybark uk

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what wont this be ok for ?
« on: January 13, 2013, 04:07:00 PM »
I see lots of  threads asking if this bow or this arrow will be enough for certain animals .
So I'm asking it this way ,this is my set up ,what won't it be enough for ??
Bow ,55# hoyt buffalo
Arrows ,easton axis fmj's 400's 29.25 bop  ,75gn hit insert 100gn point (2 or 4 blade stingers) total wieght 505 gn
I draw 28.5 average speed 185 fps.
Please let me know what you think thanks,
John .
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hoyt buffalo 55@28/ 56@28{border hex 6.5 limbs }
stalker coyote fxt 62" 52@28

Offline centaur

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Re: what wont this be ok for ?
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2013, 04:26:00 PM »
Rhinos are not a good idea, and elephants are right off the list.
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Offline Old Chief

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Re: what wont this be ok for ?
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2013, 04:28:00 PM »
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Offline TomBow

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Re: what wont this be ok for ?
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2013, 04:37:00 PM »
and bluw whales?  I just don't think you're gonna have enough penetration!

Hokay, serious time.  It is hard to say what you "won't have enough (penetration)" for with your set-up.  Shot placement tells the ultimate tale, if there is minimal to no bone contact you should have plenty for most game.  Bone contact adds serious resistance and brings broadhead strength and durability into question.  Ultimately, it is your decision.  Lots of folks like more grain weight per pound than you have to sway the odds in their favor, should there be a less than perfect hit (read: more bone contact).  BUT, you have plenty and arrow tuning is the more crucial issue to address IMO.  More weight carries more downrange momentum theoretically which means more penetration potential, but a straight flying arrow drives all the potential penetration force directly behind the point of the broadhead.  Tune for perfect arrow flight where you are maximizing that force.  Best of luck.
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Offline graybark uk

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Re: what wont this be ok for ?
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2013, 04:51:00 PM »
I did shoot arrows that weighed 560gn's out of my hoyt & my
Widow ( cx edge hunters )  but my fmj's  at this set up will bare shaft out to 30 yards so i don't really want to mess with them .
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hoyt buffalo 55@28/ 56@28{border hex 6.5 limbs }
stalker coyote fxt 62" 52@28

Offline graybark uk

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Re: what wont this be ok for ?
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2013, 04:55:00 PM »
Wasn't planning any dino hunts this year guys but thanks for the heads up    :bigsmyl:
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hoyt buffalo 55@28/ 56@28{border hex 6.5 limbs }
stalker coyote fxt 62" 52@28

Offline Bowwild

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Re: what wont this be ok for ?
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2013, 04:57:00 PM »
In North America this will work on everything.

I started to comment on the UK critters but I almost forgot that us serfs are forbidden to bowhunt there.

I'd think only a few beasts in Africa would be a problem: Elephant, Rhino, & Cape Buffalo (may not be legal).

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Re: what wont this be ok for ?
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2013, 05:00:00 PM »
In my humble opinion, I think it's too much for game like chipmunks, especilly with the 4 blade broadheads. I'm think too much damage for full body mounts.  :biglaugh:
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Offline Bjorn

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Re: what wont this be ok for ?
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2013, 07:07:00 PM »
Bring your camera and take lotsa' pics!

Offline BOHO

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Re: what wont this be ok for ?
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2013, 07:12:00 PM »
1,000 pound boars is definitely out
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Offline S.C. Hunter

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Re: what wont this be ok for ?
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2013, 07:14:00 PM »
Other than a Jackalope your good to go!
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Offline ChrisM

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Re: what wont this be ok for ?
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2013, 07:14:00 PM »
Definatly don't shoot that lizard from Spiderman.  You would need a Higher FOC and a single bevel  :)
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Re: what wont this be ok for ?
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2013, 07:34:00 PM »
anything in North America and Africa plans game.
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Offline Roadkill

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Re: what wont this be ok for ?
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2013, 11:50:00 PM »
Most of my gear falls inand around yours.  I would hunt anything in NA with my bows.
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Offline old_goat2

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Re: what wont this be ok for ?
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2013, 01:12:00 PM »
I don't think it's appropriate for anything in England, maybe you should just send it on across the pond for me to use here in Colorado!
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Re: what wont this be ok for ?
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2013, 01:25:00 PM »
I don't think it's appropriate for anything in England, maybe you should just send it on across the pond for me to use here in Colorado!
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Offline graybark uk

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Re: what wont this be ok for ?
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2013, 02:00:00 PM »
Goat I would send it to you but I'll have to come with it , its to young to fly by its self    :biglaugh:  thanks for all the input guys .who knows if the british bowhunters assc get lucky in the future I may be able to invite some of you over to hunt roe & fallow deer with me in epping forest .
John
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hoyt buffalo 55@28/ 56@28{border hex 6.5 limbs }
stalker coyote fxt 62" 52@28

Offline calgarychef

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Re: what wont this be ok for ?
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2013, 06:19:00 PM »
Hope I'm not out of line here, but I wonder if you're not over spined.  And if that's the case then you might not have very good arrow flight, and......that leads to bad things, especially when shooting at live animals.

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Re: what wont this be ok for ?
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2013, 07:05:00 PM »
Like some have already stated. Well tuned arrows and razor sharp broadheads and you have what it takes to kill anything in North America.

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Re: what wont this be ok for ?
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2013, 08:29:00 PM »
I believe he stated it bareshafted great at 30 yds. If that's the case, it doesn't sound off spine.
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