The Trad Gang Digital Market
*** TRAD GANG SPONSOR LIST ***
3Rivers Archery
Abowyer Inc.
A&H Archery
American Leathers
Art Vincent Leather Works
Backwoods Grind Coffee
Big Jim's Bow Company
Bill Langer Bowhunting Productions
Bison Gear Packs
Black Widow Bows
Bow Hush
Broderick Head's Taxidermy
Cari-Bow
Dryad Bows
Eagle's Flight Archery
G. Fred Asbell
Gray Wolf Woolens
Hill Country Bows
Instinctive Archer Magazine
Island Graphics
KME Sharpeners
Marksman Quivers
Montana Bows - Dan Toelke
Mule Creek Outfitting
Onestringer Arrow Wraps
Pedernal Bowhunts
Pine Hollow Longbows
Polk Knives
Ron La Clair's Archery Shoppe
Schafer Silvertip Bows
Shift's Seasoning
Silent But Deadly Bowstrings
Smokeys Deer Lure
St. Joe River Bows
Todd SMith Company
Tolke Bows
TradArchers' World
Trad Gang Digital Market
VPA - Vantage Point Archery
The Waldrop PacSeat
Wood from the West
Zipper Bows
Zwickey Archery
Contribute to Trad Gang and Access the Classifieds!
Become a Trad Gang Sponsor!
Traditional Archery for Bowhunters
LEFT HAND BOWS CLASSIFIEDS
TRAD GANG CLASSIFIEDS ACCESS
RIGHT HAND BOWS CLASSIFIEDS
The Cyber Camp of Traditional Bowhunters
Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
Did you miss your
activation email
?
1 Hour
1 Day
1 Week
1 Month
Forever
Login with username, password and session length
News:
Home
Help
Login
Register
Trad Gang
»
Main Boards
»
PowWow
»
Another arrow tuning question
« previous
next »
Print
Pages: [
1
]
Go Down
Author
Topic: Another arrow tuning question (Read 210 times)
trojanman
Trad Bowhunter
Posts: 30
Another arrow tuning question
«
on:
January 17, 2013, 02:33:00 PM »
Yes i used the search and am sure I even know the answer to my questions. But I am going to ask anyway. I am shooting a 53# Kanati and my draw legnth is right at 28. I bought a dozen CE 150 wanting to make them work for both mine and my sons bow. I have a few cut down to 28.75 and I feel as though they are still slightly weak when bare shafting. Fletched not so much. I am right at 250 up front and that puts me at the bare minimum of about 530 grain arrow. This is my first adventure in tuning my own and carbons so I dont want to muck it up too much. Blast me if you want wont hurt my feelings. Thanks George.
Logged
Never forget that freedom isn't free.
olddogrib
Trad Bowhunter
Posts: 1365
Re: Another arrow tuning question
«
Reply #1 on:
January 17, 2013, 07:05:00 PM »
I have no experience with CE's, but I think the concensus here is going to be that you're underspined. You can halve that head weight and find out, but I think 250's will be closer if you're determined to keep that kind of weight up front. Start full length, more carbons get ruined by a cut-off saw than any other reason!
Logged
"Wakan Tanka
Wakan Tanka
Pilamaya
Wichoni heh"
onewhohasfun
Trad Bowhunter
Posts: 735
Re: Another arrow tuning question
«
Reply #2 on:
January 17, 2013, 07:22:00 PM »
If they are too weak just build out your side plate a little. Simple eh?
Logged
Tom
yeager
Trad Bowhunter
Posts: 502
Re: Another arrow tuning question
«
Reply #3 on:
January 17, 2013, 10:31:00 PM »
Try using Stu Miller's Dynamic Spine Calculator. I use it and get great arrow flight.
Logged
Wisconsin Traditional Archers
Wisconsin Bowhunter Assoc lifetime member
P&Y Club, Official Measurer
screamin
Trad Bowhunter
Posts: 470
Re: Another arrow tuning question
«
Reply #4 on:
January 18, 2013, 02:08:00 AM »
I had a 53 # Kanati and draw 28" If I remember right a 29.5" 400 spined Goldtip Traditional with a 200 gr head flew perfect.
Logged
cahaba
Trad Bowhunter
Posts: 1773
Re: Another arrow tuning question
«
Reply #5 on:
January 18, 2013, 04:36:00 AM »
I have shot this type of setup. Mine was cut 29" bop and I was shooting 225 up front. Are you getting good flight? I would shoot some holes thru paper and do some bare shafting.
Logged
cahaba: A Choctaw word that means
"River from above"
rwbowman
Trad Bowhunter
Posts: 593
Re: Another arrow tuning question
«
Reply #6 on:
January 18, 2013, 06:47:00 AM »
I'd say underspined too. I have a 50# custom longbow and draw it too 47# @ 27". I have a single CE Heritage 150 that I bareshafted and ended up cut to 28" with 200 grains up front. Shoots like a dart for me, but your pulling a few more pounds than me.
Logged
Shoot Straight..
Rory
njloco
Trad Bowhunter
Posts: 2357
Re: Another arrow tuning question
«
Reply #7 on:
January 18, 2013, 09:15:00 AM »
If I'm doing this correct, rwbowman's arrows are 9.7 gr per inch with a 50 gr. brass insert and a 125gr. broadhead, at 455 gr., what's wrong with that ? Educate me ?
By the way I shoot a GT1535 with a 50gr brass insert and a 125-150gr broad head out of a 54# recurve.
Logged
Leon Stewart 3pc. 64" R/D 51# @ 27"
Gordy Morey 2pc. 68" R/D 55# @ 28"
Hoyt Pro Medalist, 70" 42# @ 28" (1963)
Bear Tamerlane 66" 30# @ 28" (1966)- for my better half
Bear Kodiak 60" 47# @ 28"(1965)
ddauler
Trad Bowhunter
Posts: 551
Re: Another arrow tuning question
«
Reply #8 on:
January 18, 2013, 04:33:00 PM »
I shoot 150's out of a 56 lb Black Widow they bare shaft weak shoot perfect with feathers. I also know from my experience that any shaft that is perfect bare is to stiff for me with feathers. I shoot 55-75 gold tips out of the same bow they shoot great too. I generally like mine a little weak.
Logged
Mohawk Sparrowhawk 47# 64"
Ton of selfbows
Traditional Bowhunters of Georgia
PBS Regular Member
"I have been their friend and mortal enemy. I have so loved them that I longed to kill them. But I gave them far more than a fair chance." Will Thompson
longrifle346
Trad Bowhunter
Posts: 140
Re: Another arrow tuning question
«
Reply #9 on:
January 18, 2013, 05:26:00 PM »
I couldn't get my 45# Omega to shoot them. I cut them all the way down to 30" and put 100 grains up front, they still bareshafted weak. The 250s fly like darts with 150 up front.
Logged
If you find yourself in a fair fight? Your tactics suck!
Rick Richard
Trad Bowhunter
Posts: 1064
Re: Another arrow tuning question
«
Reply #10 on:
January 18, 2013, 06:03:00 PM »
There are too many variables to determine what works for me will work for you. I would start at what you think will work and bare shaft through paper. Paper is a much better method than just watching the flight. When you are able to get bullet holes, then fletch and shoot back through paper. If you get bullet holes again, then you are well tuned. Just remember when cutting carbons, remove a little at a time.
Logged
ALDO
Trad Bowhunter
Posts: 303
Re: Another arrow tuning question
«
Reply #11 on:
January 19, 2013, 04:51:00 AM »
A little weak in bare shaft is OK. Try fletching some and shoot field points and broadheads together and see what that tells you. Also, what onewhohasfun
said is right on the money, build out the side plate a little.
Good Luck
ALDO
Logged
"One does not hunt in order to kill; on the contrary, one kills in order to have hunted."
Jose Ortega y Gasset
trojanman
Trad Bowhunter
Posts: 30
Re: Another arrow tuning question
«
Reply #12 on:
January 20, 2013, 03:56:00 AM »
Thank you all.
Logged
Never forget that freedom isn't free.
xtrema312
Trad Bowhunter
Posts: 3163
Re: Another arrow tuning question
«
Reply #13 on:
January 20, 2013, 12:32:00 PM »
I can shoot a 30" with 175 up front in my MOAB at about 54@29 and I am still over 9 gpp. Not sure on the center cut of your bow. According to Stu's calculator, you can go down to a 150 point and still be right around 9 gpp. I get almost 580 gr. or more dependent on feathers on your current arrow once you add in the feathers, nock, and insert. Give some lighter points a try and build out the side just a little if needed. I think you can get there.
Logged
1 Timothy 4:4(NKJV)
For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving.
Firefly Long Bow James 4:14
60" MOAB 54@29 James 1:17
Michigan Longbow Association
Print
Pages: [
1
]
Go Up
« previous
next »
Trad Gang
»
Main Boards
»
PowWow
»
Another arrow tuning question
Users currently browsing this topic:
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
Contact Us
|
Trad Gang.com ©
|
User Agreement
Copyright 2003 thru 2024 ~ Trad Gang.com ©