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Author Topic: Help needed for loooong draw  (Read 374 times)

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Help needed for loooong draw
« on: January 17, 2013, 07:49:00 PM »
Hey guys, I had a fellow email me wanting to start shooting a recurve.

The trouble I'm having is he is 7'2" tall and has a 35" draw.  I know he needs a long recurve, but don't know where to start looking.

I have a 28" draw and shoot d/r bows so don't know much about loooong draw bows, but would like to be able to point him in the right direction.

So if any highpockets could help a short fella here, I'd appreceiate it..  :goldtooth:
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Re: Help needed for loooong draw
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2013, 07:59:00 PM »
What is he going to use for arrow shafts?!?!?  :confused:

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Re: Help needed for loooong draw
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2013, 08:50:00 PM »
I don't know, will have to pretty stiff at that length. Not sure if you can find any wood, carbon, or aluminum that long.

 Maybe cane with wood footing?
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Re: Help needed for loooong draw
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2013, 09:02:00 PM »
I REALLY look forward to watching this thread!

I can't think of a current bow designed for anything near that. As for a "production" option, maybe a Bear C riser with #3 limbs???

For arrows, I believe the longest shipping shaft today is 33.25" (please correct me if I'm wrong.) Given that, I'd go straight to wood shafts and have them footed.
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Re: Help needed for loooong draw
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2013, 09:24:00 PM »
Foot some carbons with aluminum.?????  Bow?.????
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Re: Help needed for loooong draw
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2013, 09:35:00 PM »
Kenny, Maybe he can use a string loop(as they use on wheels) I saw a bow for a basketball player that had a 2 1/2" string loop to compensate for the arm length.It could be done with a loop that is double served over the end you would hold. And a double nock point on the bow string with the string loop tied above and below the nock points.
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Re: Help needed for loooong draw
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2013, 09:38:00 PM »
Talk about a power stroke.
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Re: Help needed for loooong draw
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2013, 09:41:00 PM »
Darrel Emmhoff played in the NBA years back.  He was 6"10" and shot a recurve, was before compouds.  Unfortunately I can't recall what type it was.  Wonder if something similar to the 68" through 72" target style bows of the past would work for him.  With that draw length getting a hunting weight wouldn't be a problem even with the longer bow.

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Re: Help needed for loooong draw
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2013, 09:45:00 PM »
Norm Johnson builds a 66" but only specs it for up to 33" draws.

Dont think I've ever hear of anyone drawing that far.
Arrow spine should be do-able if the weight is kept low, he could have the worlds fastest 45# bow. An aluminum extension/footing will keep the effective BOP farther back to help stiffen the shaft

Tell him he needs to bend his bow arm more! ( A lot more)

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Re: Help needed for loooong draw
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2013, 09:57:00 PM »
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Kenny, Maybe he can use a string loop(as they use on wheels) I saw a bow for a basketball player that had a 2 1/2" string loop to compensate for the arm length.It could be done with a loop that is double served over the end you would hold. And a double nock point on the bow string with the string loop tied above and below the nock points.
Great idea!!

Jess, I told him to go 20# lower at 28" than target weight and prob 30# @ 28 would be most needed (he shoots 78# wheel bow)
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Re: Help needed for loooong draw
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2013, 10:00:00 PM »
And with that he could use any arrow.
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Re: Help needed for loooong draw
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2013, 10:05:00 PM »
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Darrel Emmhoff played in the NBA years back.  He was 6"10" and shot a recurve, was before compouds.  Unfortunately I can't recall what type it was.  Wonder if something similar to the 68" through 72" target style bows of the past would work for him.  With that draw length getting a hunting weight wouldn't be a problem even with the longer bow.
I was thinking of target bows too, but just because they are long doesn't mean they're designed for long draws. The more I thought about the performance aspect of these bows the more I thought a long glass/boo built to loose specs might be more forgiving than other high tech/low tolerance combos.
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Re: Help needed for loooong draw
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2013, 10:07:00 PM »
I may be able to help with the arrows. My father makes arrows for some of these crazy long Japanese bows. Called  Kyudo Japanese Traditional bow these bows use a really long arrows I have seen them in the shop. He has them made by easton they are aluminum and I think they are over 35" I will find out. For you in the mourning when I see him. I know they are about $13 each but thats with shipping I bet we can make this work your friend.

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Re: Help needed for loooong draw
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2013, 10:07:00 PM »
Couldn't he use some type of modified olympic setup... At my local range I'm pretty sure there are some 72" recurves...he could probably get 35lb limbs and with that draw length he'd get near 50lbs..   bad idea?

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Re: Help needed for loooong draw
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2013, 10:08:00 PM »
Couldn't he use some type of modified olympic setup... At my local range I'm pretty sure there are some 72" recurves...he could probably get 35lb limbs and with that draw length he'd get near 50lbs..   bad idea?

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Re: Help needed for loooong draw
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2013, 10:10:00 PM »
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Kenny, Maybe he can use a string loop(as they use on wheels) I saw a bow for a basketball player that had a 2 1/2" string loop to compensate for the arm length.It could be done with a loop that is double served over the end you would hold. And a double nock point on the bow string with the string loop tied above and below the nock points.
Wouldn't that create a ton a finger pinch?
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Re: Help needed for loooong draw
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2013, 10:10:00 PM »
Thanks guys! This is really helping. I knew you guys would have some great ideas!!
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Re: Help needed for loooong draw
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2013, 10:14:00 PM »
Thom,
  If the loop is only 2-3 inches and double served it shouldnt(the double serving should be thick enough to keep it a little stiff.String loop material is also a little stiffer than regular string material.

 Its about $10.00  in material to find out,its worth a shot
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Re: Help needed for loooong draw
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2013, 10:22:00 PM »
Kenny the 66 inch Talon static will do that with no stack with the long build on the limb/The 64 does 34 inches but starts stacking a bit after that.
Like everyone says Arrows are the real problem.
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Re: Help needed for loooong draw
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2013, 02:03:00 PM »
For arrow length, you can take an alum. arrow and cut the last x number of inches off and foot a full length carbon with it. This is something I do to add length to my own arrow shafts. It takes a little experimentation but gives instant high FOC and extra length.
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