jig for paper wheels sharpening

Justin Falon · January 19, 2013, 07:10:00 PM

anyone who uses the paper wheels for sharpenging two blade heads ever make a jig to hold the head at the 25 degree angle???????

If so, can you share pics? THanks.

justin

Burnsie · January 19, 2013, 08:25:00 PM

I am interested in this one as well, hope someone chimes in. I have tossed the idea around in my head many times trying to think of a design that would allow you to keep a constant angle while moving the broadhead in and out - back and forth across the wheel. I know there are those that can get really good at it doing it free-hand, but I'm not one of them.

twigflicker · January 19, 2013, 08:27:00 PM

Justin,

I remember this thread from way back... found it... not sure it would work with a sharpening wheel... but always thought it was pretty slick!

http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=060487

Jonathan

Justin Falon · January 19, 2013, 08:53:00 PM

I recognize the jig. I have a table saw that I could convert into a bench for using the jig. Endless possibilities.
Keep the ideas coming boyz.

justin

bretto · January 19, 2013, 09:05:00 PM

Be careful with the paper wheels. Caught the tip of a Magnus on one once and it threw it across the room arrow and all. :eek:

onewhohasfun · January 20, 2013, 05:25:00 AM

A perfect angle is not as critical with the paper wheels, I have not used the newer Grizzlies, but I set the initial bevel with a file or disk sander on the old ones.
I set up my paper wheels to spin away from me at the top. Mark the wheel with a sharpie and a protracter or speed square to get a location for the angle. If the wheel was a clock, 25degrees would be about 11:00 o'clock. I hold knives and broadheads horizontal with the wheel spinning away from me. Safer and easier to hold a consistent angle. Put a big mark on top of the motor that coincides with 10:15 (25 degrees). Your grit wheel should be about 90% wax.
Be careful is right, but I have never had an issue. Only sharpen heads mounted on a shaft.
Alaska Bowhunting Supply had a tutorial last time I checked.
Best $50 I ever spent.

Pete McMiller · January 20, 2013, 12:11:00 PM

Where do you guys get your paper wheels from? Do you mount them on a regular grinder? What grit do you use?

onewhohasfun · January 20, 2013, 01:03:00 PM

Abowyer, and Alaska Bowhunting Supply Carry them.
8 inch wheels work on a 6inch or larger grinder.
The coarse is a diamond grit, the fine is a rouge polishing wheel. They come that way.

Goshawkin · January 20, 2013, 01:24:00 PM

You can get them at woodworking stores. I got mine at Woodcraft.

Pete McMiller · January 20, 2013, 01:53:00 PM

Thanks, I need to pick a set up.

Justin Falon · January 20, 2013, 03:35:00 PM

This morning I turned the wheels away from me so that they were spinning away. Like an idiot, I reached around the front of it, without fully thinking that through, to shut it off and the wheel nicked me in the thumb. Put a nice long and deep gash in me.

I sharpened 5 knives using the top of the wheel rather than the front. Much much easier to imagine the angle using the top rather than the front. Also easier for me to keep the angle consistent.

Next step is a broadhead. I have new stock grizzly 200 grain heads. Will continue to practice one junk knives until I have it down pat and then onto broadheads mounted on the shaft.

THe edge these paper wheels puts on is pretty amazing. In seconds!

Goshawkin · January 20, 2013, 04:01:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by Justin Falon:

THe edge these paper wheels puts on is pretty amazing. In seconds!

Yep,you can say that again! First time I saw the wheels used was by Melvin Dunn at a sportsshow in the mid '90's.When you stopped at Melvin's booth he'd sharpen your knife in a couple seconds on a wheel and I mean scary sharp. I've been sold on them since.

Flinttim · January 20, 2013, 04:22:00 PM

Justin, check out your grinder (if you have the wheels on a grinder)On most of them you can dismount the base (with the switch)and turn it 180 deg and re mount. Keeps what happened to you from happening to you .

Justin Falon · January 20, 2013, 05:33:00 PM

I will check that out. WOuld cetainly be a nice feature. It is a Delta grinder.

alligatordond · January 20, 2013, 10:07:00 PM

I can't imagine needing a jig. It's really quick and simple. I did take an Abowyer head, held it on top with the edge on the wheel( the grinder was off) . I the. Rotated the wheel until the head was vertical and marked the spot on the grinder. Now I just line up the edge with the line, hold the head vertical and make usually one pass each to sharpen. Very very easy.

Justin Falon · January 21, 2013, 08:22:00 AM

guess I am not understanding the part about marking the grinder means.

justin

Burnsie · January 21, 2013, 09:19:00 AM

QuoteOriginally posted by Justin Falon:
guess I am not understanding the part about marking the grinder means.

justin

I'm with Justin, got any pics of how you mark the grinder??

stevewills · January 21, 2013, 10:20:00 AM

ive been using one for 3 years and i freehand it..i get my muzzy phantoms razor sharp fast...

January 21, 2013, 10:24:00 AM

QuoteOriginally posted by Justin Falon:
guess I am not understanding the part about marking the grinder means.

justin

X3!

Bisch

alligatordond · January 21, 2013, 10:48:00 AM

I don't do the photo thing well. But basically I set the broadhead , an Abowyer in this case, on top of an in spinning paper wheel. Then tilt the broadhead until the cutting edge is touching the wheel. ( should be about a 25 degree tilt)
Remember you are still on top of the wheel.
Now slowly rotate the wheel while holding the angle until the broadhead is vertical . Make a sharpie mark on the grinder housing to use as a visual reference.
That way you know where on the wheel to place a vertical broadhead and achieve a 25 degree bevel and being vertical takes out the guesswork .... Ok I'll send someone pics to post.