Aggressive R/D hybrid longbow appreciation thread

[Andy Cooper]

Eaglewing Carbon longbow by Sixby

[South MS Bowhunter]

Centaur Chimera
 
 
 
 
 

[cecilm]

Just recieved this Black Canyon from Mike Hayes, it's the best shooting bow I've owned-just great all around could not be more Pleased.

[Sixby]

Purplkeheart, Koa, Heavy D and R Eaglewing
 

[Sixby]

EagleWing
Curley maple and Koa. Who needs snakewood?
carbon limbs , heavy d and r crazy koa and fiddleback koa limbs. veneers ground to .012
 

[magnus]

Sixby are those recurves or longbows? Look sweet.

[Sixby]

Longbows. The strings do not touch the limbs at their brace of 7 1/4 inches. I think this is called the Agressive longbow appreciation thread so these fit that bill . Barely (grin) Technicaly they would be called hybrids I believe. Thanks for the compliment. God bless you, Steve  

[Brianlocal3]

Originally posted by cecilm:
      Just recieved this Black Canyon from Mike Hayes, it's the best shooting bow I've owned-just great all around could not be more Pleased.

Ill start by saying typically I do not like 3 pc hybrids, BUT this bow right here for some reason just draws me in.  The grip looks fantastic and I have yet to see any other 3 pc that can hold a candle to this bow.  WOW, I may actually order one.

[Nativestranger]

Keep them coming guys.

 

[Frenchymanny]

My sweet hunting package:
A Thunderchild, osage belly cocobolo back:

 

[Chromebuck]

I know this is an appreciation thread and I have fully enjoyed looking at every single image posted in this thread.  

However, as Rob D. struggled in his mild R/D that braces to "D" thread, the interpretation is often extremely varied.

First off, for me it's not the amount of reflex the bow illustrates unbraced. It's the amount of reflex shown in the tips when braced.

If I were to try rank the top three most aggressive examples shown in this thread it would be the following:
1. Thunderchild (hands-down!)

2. Liberty Edge (Allen Boise)

3. Black Creek Banshee (Jim Gainey)


I know a BC Siren made the thread, but not sure if the Banshee made it.

What are others interpretation of aggressive?

     
~CB

[Claym]

Dwyer Endeavor 58"

Also have a Java Man Elkheart on the way this fall. Really looking forward to that one

[Chromebuck]

Wow!  That Endeavor is extremely aggresive.  Thanks for posting...

[Zradix]

Always wanted to try one of those.

[Flying Dutchman]

Sixby,

FITA rules say that when a bow is not D-shaped, it is a recurve. In the past it was the string not touching the limbs. That is also the reason why some bowyers make socalled "cheater bows": heavily reflexed, but limb shape in such a way that you still have a D-form when strung. When I shoot competition tournaments over here, My Cari-bow Peregrine is in the recurve class. But I must say, it gives me more satisfaction to beat the guys in the recurve class with their carbon arra's (I shoot wood) then my fellow longbowers  

[Sixby]

There is a point where agressiveness becomes a liability in the vertical stability department. I redesigned my Eaglewing because of that. Neat thing is I found out that the new limb was just as fast but much more stable and therefore more shootable for a lot of folks. You hear some people bless certain brands of bows that are very agressive and others curse (metaphorical) the same bow. Generally it is the shooter. A person with a non torqueing grip and a great release has no problem with shooting a verticaly unstable bow. A person that has a slightly less than perfect release with be complaining of fliars ect shooting the same bow that is a tack driver to the other shooter.
I want my cake and Iwant to eat it too. Iwant a bow that is stable., A tack driver , and fast. That is what I call a great bow. One with no impediments.

God bless you all, Steve

[Zradix]

I need to figure out how to fix my biggest impediment...ME.

Have a hard time convincing myself that "I'll be soooo much better with a new bow"..lol

[Nativestranger]

Originally posted by Flying Dutchman:
Sixby,

FITA rules say that when a bow is not D-shaped, it is a recurve. In the past it was the string not touching the limbs. That is also the reason why some bowyers make socalled "cheater bows": heavily reflexed, but limb shape in such a way that you still have a D-form when strung. When I shoot competition tournaments over here, My Cari-bow Peregrine is in the recurve class. But I must say, it gives me more satisfaction to beat the guys in the recurve class with their carbon arra's (I shoot wood) then my fellow longbowers    

Caribow Peregrine in recurve class? That's ridiculous. While speed monsters like whippenstick and 21st century goes undetected and matches up against hill style or string follow bows. The rules need some tweaking as I see it.

[Nativestranger]

Originally posted by Chromebuck:
I know this is an appreciation thread and I have fully enjoyed looking at every single image posted in this thread.  

However, as Rob D. struggled in his mild R/D that braces to "D" thread, the interpretation is often extremely varied.

First off, for me it's not the amount of reflex the bow illustrates unbraced. It's the amount of reflex shown in the tips when braced.

If I were to try rank the top three most aggressive examples shown in this thread it would be the following:
1. Thunderchild (hands-down!)

2. Liberty Edge (Allen Boise)

3. Black Creek Banshee (Jim Gainey)


I know a BC Siren made the thread, but not sure if the Banshee made it.

What are others interpretation of aggressive?

       
~CB

I think most members can agree that any RD design that braces to a triangular profile with either straight or reflexed limbs is considered aggressive. Bracing into a D or having all parts of the limbs bowing outwards will be considered mild RD.

[Chromebuck]

First off I think this degree of hybrid is really poorly defined and in some cases snubbed and not truely recognized for what it is.  I think Ad's comment about his Cari-bow reflects that perfectly.

I see the categories slightly different than you do Jimmy.  Your example goes from mild R/D to agressive R/D.  I see it more as Mild R/D braces to D shape.  R/D braces to triangle shape and Aggressive R/D (especially reverse handle) braces with reflex through the tip section.  Clay's Endeavor is what I feel to be a perfect representation of aggressive R/D.

Always interested in learning but not sure if there is any right answer to any of this.

~CB