Aggressive R/D hybrid longbow appreciation thread

[coaster500]

[Danny Rowan]

Cari-Bow Slynx. One of the very few longbows I can shoot almost as well as my recurves.



Not my bow but shows the profile

[Hermon]

Wild Horse Creek Kestrel

[Schafer]

I love my Randy Morin Banshee. 60" 53@29. Its super quiet and smokes an arrow.

Originally posted by Pon:
Treadway Black Swamp!I used to have one but don't have good pics

Another one I like the looks of is the Dwyer Endeavour, can someone tell me how do they shoot?

I have shot my buddy's a couple of times. It shoots really fast and there is no hand shock. Also I have never seen such cool looking limb tips, and the Dwyer grip is one of my all time favorites.

Schafer

[threeunder]

Originally posted by Bowhunter4life:
The Thunderstick MOAB... I don't have a good profile pic at this point but the limbs have static tips without the string touching the belly.  Great shooters!  Also the Big Jim Thunderchild, another great short hybrid longbow...

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[RM81]

Top to Bottom:
62" Thunderstick III
62" MOAB
58" Mag

[threeunder]

Over & Under,
I think what Bowhunter4life is referring to is the last 8" or so of the limbs of the MOAB have a fairly pronounced turn toward the back of the bow similar to a static tip recurve limb turn (but not nearly as pronounced).
Look at RM81's photo above.  A close look at the MOAB in the middle and you can just make it out.
I'm not aware of any other RD Longbow that has this (doesn't mean they don't exist, just that I haven't fooled with one).
Personally, and I'm no bowyer, but I believe this is what gives the MOAB design a little bit more performance in the speed and smooth draw departments.
Someone with more knowledge than I have about limb design might be able to provide more information.
Ken

[Sixby]

Eaglewings both have static tip d and rs and non static depending on the build. Its not unique to any one bowyer but it is a really great feature when used in the right design. You can even build a static tip into a string follow design. It increases draw length and places the sweet spot where you want it to be. Again when incorporated into a specific design or for a specific purpose.  

God bless you all, Steve

[threeunder]

Thanks Steve!

[Cherokee Scout]

I have not seen limb twist but I have seen limbs fade to one side or the other.

[Nativestranger]

Originally posted by Sixby:
Sasquatch and Eaglewings both have static tip d and rs. Its not unique to any one bowyer but it is a really great feature when used in the right design. You can even build a static tip into a string follow design. It increases draw length and places the sweet spot where you want it to be. Again when incorporated into a specific design or for a specific purpose.

God bless you all, Steve

By static tip do you mean stiff outer limbs that retain their shape when strung and drawn?  I have seen quite a few bows like this. Does it improve the stored energy and efficiency?

[Chromebuck]

As our technical advisor Rob D. has so eloquently pointed out in previous posts.  R/D is an accepted colloquialism that really does not truelly relflect the shape of a hybrid bow from riser to limb tip, but none the less is the accepted description.  A true hybrid actually deflexes out of the riser and reflexes mid-limb through the tip.  

When I think of aggressive versions of this style undoubtably the Thunderchild comes to mind and right there with it is the Liberty Edge by Allen Boice.  Both fine bowyers with great products.
 
 
~CB

[sawtoothscream]

omega longbow, priced great and are so fast


Hunter bows are awesome shooters as well and hitmans are sick as well.  heres a picture of both side by side (hitman on left and hunterbow on right)

[V-Archer]

My hybrid "Legend of the Forest" fast and accurate.

[Robertfishes]

I don't have a good pic..but this is a 66" bow I built. It was built using a 64" form I made using a 62/64 template I got from kennym.    

[Covey]

Here's a couple pics of my beloved Kanati.
   

Love R/D longbows!
Jason

[Sixby]

Native, I deleted Sasquatch for a reason. That is because upon reflection I did not think it right to speak for another bowyer, even my best friend.
To answer your question about the static tips , there are at least two ways and a combination of the two to make any limb a static. you can do it by geometry, by tip wedge , wood, glass , or carbon. or a combination of geometry and wedge/
I suspect that the gentleman that brought this into the conversation is saying that the static is created by geometry. In a D and R limb that would actually make the bow limb a semi static as the tip will eventually bend toward the very end of the draw/ This is true even of a super radical reflex. The only way to make it a true static tip would be to use the combination.

As to whether it improves performance , That would depend entirely on the bowyer and the balance of the entire bow design. If it were just as simple as throwing in tip wedges and making sharp bends in the limb then everyone would do it. To get it performing right takes a lot of r and d and a lot of time and money. Once a bowyer gets that done he kind of tends to keep the results to himself.

God bless and hope this helps. Steve

[Nativestranger]

Originally posted by Robertfishes:
I don't have a good pic..but this is a 66" bow I built. It was built using a 64" form I made using a 62/64 template I got from kennym.

Gawd she's a looker. Great job! Wish I had the skills to build one.

[Froggy]

Jk Kanati..... nuff said !!

[threeunder]

I apologize for any confusion I may have caused. The "static" portion of the MOAB can be pretty easily seen here.
The MOAB limb is on the top.  Toelke Whip in the middle.  Big Jim Thunderchild on bottom.

 

Here the MOAB is by itself.  About 6-8" back from the tip you can see the exaggerated turn toward the back.

 

A look at the Thunderchild shows a generalize sweep toward the back of the bow.

 

The Toelke Whip is a little less radical in this aspect.

 

All 3 are fantastic bows, that I will not soon part with.  Each has its place.