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Author Topic: Aggressive R/D hybrid longbow appreciation thread  (Read 6809 times)

Offline coaster500

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Re: Aggressive R/D hybrid longbow appreciation thread
« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2013, 12:45:00 PM »


 

 
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Re: Aggressive R/D hybrid longbow appreciation thread
« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2013, 01:20:00 PM »
Cari-Bow Slynx. One of the very few longbows I can shoot almost as well as my recurves.
 
 

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Re: Aggressive R/D hybrid longbow appreciation thread
« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2013, 02:54:00 PM »
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Re: Aggressive R/D hybrid longbow appreciation thread
« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2013, 03:00:00 PM »
I love my Randy Morin Banshee. 60" 53@29. Its super quiet and smokes an arrow.

 
 


 
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Treadway Black Swamp!I used to have one but don't have good pics

Another one I like the looks of is the Dwyer Endeavour, can someone tell me how do they shoot?
I have shot my buddy's a couple of times. It shoots really fast and there is no hand shock. Also I have never seen such cool looking limb tips, and the Dwyer grip is one of my all time favorites.

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Re: Aggressive R/D hybrid longbow appreciation thread
« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2013, 03:07:00 PM »
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The Thunderstick MOAB... I don't have a good profile pic at this point but the limbs have static tips without the string touching the belly.  Great shooters!  Also the Big Jim Thunderchild, another great short hybrid longbow...
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Re: Aggressive R/D hybrid longbow appreciation thread
« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2013, 03:37:00 PM »
Top to Bottom:
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Re: Aggressive R/D hybrid longbow appreciation thread
« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2013, 04:43:00 PM »
Over & Under,
I think what Bowhunter4life is referring to is the last 8" or so of the limbs of the MOAB have a fairly pronounced turn toward the back of the bow similar to a static tip recurve limb turn (but not nearly as pronounced).
Look at RM81's photo above.  A close look at the MOAB in the middle and you can just make it out.
I'm not aware of any other RD Longbow that has this (doesn't mean they don't exist, just that I haven't fooled with one).
Personally, and I'm no bowyer, but I believe this is what gives the MOAB design a little bit more performance in the speed and smooth draw departments.
Someone with more knowledge than I have about limb design might be able to provide more information.
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Re: Aggressive R/D hybrid longbow appreciation thread
« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2013, 04:57:00 PM »
Eaglewings both have static tip d and rs and non static depending on the build. Its not unique to any one bowyer but it is a really great feature when used in the right design. You can even build a static tip into a string follow design. It increases draw length and places the sweet spot where you want it to be. Again when incorporated into a specific design or for a specific purpose.  

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Re: Aggressive R/D hybrid longbow appreciation thread
« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2013, 05:04:00 PM »
Thanks Steve!
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Re: Aggressive R/D hybrid longbow appreciation thread
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2013, 05:08:00 PM »
I have not seen limb twist but I have seen limbs fade to one side or the other.
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Re: Aggressive R/D hybrid longbow appreciation thread
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2013, 05:18:00 PM »
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Sasquatch and Eaglewings both have static tip d and rs. Its not unique to any one bowyer but it is a really great feature when used in the right design. You can even build a static tip into a string follow design. It increases draw length and places the sweet spot where you want it to be. Again when incorporated into a specific design or for a specific purpose.

God bless you all, Steve
By static tip do you mean stiff outer limbs that retain their shape when strung and drawn?  I have seen quite a few bows like this. Does it improve the stored energy and efficiency?
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Re: Aggressive R/D hybrid longbow appreciation thread
« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2013, 05:30:00 PM »
As our technical advisor Rob D. has so eloquently pointed out in previous posts.  R/D is an accepted colloquialism that really does not truelly relflect the shape of a hybrid bow from riser to limb tip, but none the less is the accepted description.  A true hybrid actually deflexes out of the riser and reflexes mid-limb through the tip.  

When I think of aggressive versions of this style undoubtably the Thunderchild comes to mind and right there with it is the Liberty Edge by Allen Boice.  Both fine bowyers with great products.
 
 
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Re: Aggressive R/D hybrid longbow appreciation thread
« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2013, 05:37:00 PM »
omega longbow, priced great and are so fast
 

Hunter bows are awesome shooters as well and hitmans are sick as well.  heres a picture of both side by side (hitman on left and hunterbow on right)
 
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Re: Aggressive R/D hybrid longbow appreciation thread
« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2013, 05:58:00 PM »
My hybrid "Legend of the Forest" fast and accurate.

 
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Re: Aggressive R/D hybrid longbow appreciation thread
« Reply #34 on: January 24, 2013, 06:30:00 PM »
I don't have a good pic..but this is a 66" bow I built. It was built using a 64" form I made using a 62/64 template I got from kennym.    

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Re: Aggressive R/D hybrid longbow appreciation thread
« Reply #35 on: January 24, 2013, 06:52:00 PM »
Here's a couple pics of my beloved Kanati.
   
 
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Re: Aggressive R/D hybrid longbow appreciation thread
« Reply #36 on: January 24, 2013, 06:59:00 PM »
Native, I deleted Sasquatch for a reason. That is because upon reflection I did not think it right to speak for another bowyer, even my best friend.
To answer your question about the static tips , there are at least two ways and a combination of the two to make any limb a static. you can do it by geometry, by tip wedge , wood, glass , or carbon. or a combination of geometry and wedge/
I suspect that the gentleman that brought this into the conversation is saying that the static is created by geometry. In a D and R limb that would actually make the bow limb a semi static as the tip will eventually bend toward the very end of the draw/ This is true even of a super radical reflex. The only way to make it a true static tip would be to use the combination.

As to whether it improves performance , That would depend entirely on the bowyer and the balance of the entire bow design. If it were just as simple as throwing in tip wedges and making sharp bends in the limb then everyone would do it. To get it performing right takes a lot of r and d and a lot of time and money. Once a bowyer gets that done he kind of tends to keep the results to himself.

God bless and hope this helps. Steve

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Re: Aggressive R/D hybrid longbow appreciation thread
« Reply #37 on: January 24, 2013, 07:31:00 PM »
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I don't have a good pic..but this is a 66" bow I built. It was built using a 64" form I made using a 62/64 template I got from kennym.
Gawd she's a looker. Great job! Wish I had the skills to build one.
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Re: Aggressive R/D hybrid longbow appreciation thread
« Reply #38 on: January 24, 2013, 07:37:00 PM »
Jk Kanati..... nuff said !!
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Re: Aggressive R/D hybrid longbow appreciation thread
« Reply #39 on: January 24, 2013, 07:37:00 PM »
I apologize for any confusion I may have caused. The "static" portion of the MOAB can be pretty easily seen here.
The MOAB limb is on the top.  Toelke Whip in the middle.  Big Jim Thunderchild on bottom.

   

Here the MOAB is by itself.  About 6-8" back from the tip you can see the exaggerated turn toward the back.

   

A look at the Thunderchild shows a generalize sweep toward the back of the bow.

   

The Toelke Whip is a little less radical in this aspect.

   

All 3 are fantastic bows, that I will not soon part with.  Each has its place.
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