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Author Topic: Hey you talented bowyers out there  (Read 538 times)

Offline John Krause

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Hey you talented bowyers out there
« on: August 23, 2007, 08:14:00 PM »
Shot lefty for several years and switched to righty the last few years due to the ole TP. Anyways, long story short I have been shooting righty and lefty for a few months and am thinking about a dual shelf, take down recurve. I would want it to be center shot both ways as much as possible and I think this would eliminate the usual dual shelf configuration. I am thinking about a bow where you turn it over and the use the other shelf. Could a riser be made where you could have a shelf on the same side side of the bow above and below the handle?

Did I explain that so you can understand?  :)

Is this even possible in a takedown?  What would be the weak points in a design like this? Would the tiller be impossible to do? Not enought wood in the riser?  Or would the usual dual shelf be the best?

Thanks for the input.
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Offline Van/TX

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Re: Hey you talented bowyers out there
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2007, 08:24:00 PM »
A person makes that very bow that you describe.  Been making them for years and shoots them both left and right handed at the Texas Hill Country Shootout each year.  He even uses the same nocking point when turning it over.  I can't think of his name.  Dang it's heck gettin' old.  Any Texicans out there that can help my memory? ;-)....Van
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Offline John Krause

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Re: Hey you talented bowyers out there
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2007, 09:20:00 PM »
Same nocking point. Just messin with it in my head amd looking at my bow that doesn't seem like it would work but I believe you.

Somebody help us out here...    :)
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Offline Jason Lester

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Re: Hey you talented bowyers out there
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2007, 09:29:00 PM »
Maybe you flip the string?
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Re: Hey you talented bowyers out there
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2007, 09:37:00 PM »
I believe Leon Stewart had one like you describe at Denton Hill this year. You might want to give him a call.
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Re: Hey you talented bowyers out there
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2007, 09:40:00 PM »
Let me think....OUCH...that hurt!
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Re: Hey you talented bowyers out there
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2007, 09:45:00 AM »
I made a kids bow that way.  Worked out just fine.
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Re: Hey you talented bowyers out there
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2007, 09:45:00 AM »
looked a little.... shall we say, funky?
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Re: Hey you talented bowyers out there
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2007, 10:06:00 AM »
Maybe this is a dumb question, but how can a riser be "center-shot" on both sides and still have any riser material left in the middle?

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Re: Hey you talented bowyers out there
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2007, 10:10:00 AM »
Magic.
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Re: Hey you talented bowyers out there
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2007, 03:51:00 PM »
Somebody post a pic if you have one or a website with one.  Any bowyers out there ever make one or even think about it? I still can't get by the same nocking point like Vance was saying.....
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Offline OconeeDan

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Re: Hey you talented bowyers out there
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2007, 05:49:00 PM »
How about a hole in the center of the riser, use the same rest for right or left handed shooting?  TRUE center shot.  And don't flip the bow.
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Re: Hey you talented bowyers out there
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2007, 06:07:00 PM »
John, I've pondered that for years and no doubt it can be done where it would work but it would not work well without tuning problems. The geometry from bow center to the rest would be way off either way. Many have been built with shelves on opposite sides but the down side to that is having to leave so much material in the middle for strength it places the arrows way off center making tuning more critical and trying to tune both sides to the same arrow would be tough.

Dan, the shoot through is a good idea except "true centershot" doesn't work with fingers. Mech release would work fine or at least better. I can shoot both ways also and it would be great when that critter comes in from the wrong side!  :) ....O.L.
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Re: Hey you talented bowyers out there
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2007, 07:15:00 PM »
go to  www.archeryhistory.com   all the way to the bottom of the page, adirondack archery   it will work ,  take a look.
   i plan on making one this year or early next year    take care

Offline DVDD

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Re: Hey you talented bowyers out there
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2007, 08:50:00 PM »
I saw a LB like this somewhere in classified, but I can't remember where it was. I saved some pictures it seemed to me soo weird. seems to be quite complicated to post the pic here, send me a PM and I'll send you the pics if you want
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Offline Van/TX

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Re: Hey you talented bowyers out there
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2007, 09:04:00 PM »
Yes it works.  One nock set.  Turn the bow upside down and nock below the nock set.  Think about it  :bigsmyl:  ...Van
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Re: Hey you talented bowyers out there
« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2007, 09:12:00 PM »
Where are all my Texas 3-D buddy's that have seen this Man and him shooting this bow that he makes many times.    :knothead:    :D  ...Van
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Offline Rod Ham

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Re: Hey you talented bowyers out there
« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2007, 12:15:00 AM »
I remember the bow, but like Van, names escape me.  I do remember the handle being fairly short between the shelves and the windows being small...  
Pretty slick outfit though.
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Offline John Krause

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Re: Hey you talented bowyers out there
« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2007, 01:23:00 AM »
I got it, Van. The handle is twice as long with the rest in the middle, right?
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Re: Hey you talented bowyers out there
« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2007, 02:51:00 AM »
John, Try looking at these links. Also Ken Swann had a striker that he cut extra shelf in that looked real good but was a one piece.
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