My Tall Tines Through The Chrony

[parshal]

I ran both sets of limbs of my TT through the chronograph with three different arrows.  Once I get the arrows tuned I'll run them through again in a larger group to get a better average but these numbers give me a good idea of what I've got.  Since I had it set up I ran the older RER recurve through it as well.  

Note, none of the arrows were tuned to either bow.  I just had them around and decided to shoot them.  However, according to the dynamic spine calculator, the 250's should be perfect for the 51# limbs and 150's for the 45# limbs.  It's nice that both those limb/arrow combinations are right about the same speed.  It's eery how accurate the arrow speed is in that calculator.


Heritage 150
434 gn
100 gn tip
30"


Heritage 250
509 gn
145 gn tip
30.25"


Trad 600
356 gn
100 gn tip
30.5"


TT 45#
150 - 183.5 fps
250 - 172 fps
600 - 199 fps


TT 51#
150 - 193 fps
250 - 180 fps
600 - 206 fps


RER 47#
150 - 180 fps
250 - 167 fps
600 - 190 fps

[Keefer]

Brian,
 Was the RER the Arroyo model or a takedown and what was the RER length if ya don't mind me asking?  Thanks,
  Keefers <><

[parshal]

The RER is a takedown recurve that I bought used from the classifieds last year.  I think it was one of the first models they made.  The tips aren't as static as the newer RER's.  All three combos are 60" bows and measured at 28".  I draw 27.5".

I've not taken actual measurement of the draw weight on my scale.  The RER is noticeably lighter in the hand as well.

[Keefer]

Thanks Brian I appreciate the quick reply back...Reason I ask is I have a new 2012 model Arroyo but it's 50# @28" and 58" long...Just trying to figure something out with my set up...
             Keefers <><

[Friend]

The test results may prove interesting.

Would recommend not subjecting the fine 51# Tall Tines to the extemely light 7.2 gpp test arrow.

1. May damage limbs
2. May void the warranty
3. 7 gpp results provide little if any value to the trad hunter
4. The bow deserves much better treatment

[parshal]

Originally posted by Friend:
[QB] The test results may prove interesting.

Would recommend not subjecting the fine 51# Tall Tines to the extemely light 7.2 gpp test arrow.

Agreed.  It was just a test.

[Nativestranger]

That's 6.9 gpp with the 51# bow. I am surprised the limbs did not blow up. Did it shoot much louder and more shocky than usual with those arrows? Those speeds are very impressive especially with only 27.5" draw.

[parshal]

Nope.  Other than the louder thunk when the arrow hit the target the bow was just as quiet as with the heavier arrows.

 

Originally posted by Nativestranger:
Did it shoot much louder and more shocky than usual with those arrows? Those speeds are very impressive especially with only 27.5" draw.

[pamike]

dont  let brian know you shot with that light of an arrow.....

[parshal]

Brian already knows.  

 

Originally posted by pamike:
dont  let brian know you shot with that light of an arrow.....

[Manitoba Stickflinger]

Nice results...not surprised!

As far as being scolded by Wessel...been there, done that! I've had him give me that fatherly look while shaking his head a couple times. One of the only things that beats Wessels bows is his demeanour!

[parshal]

I haven't been scolded, yet.

[pdk25]

That is a little surprising to me for the rer numbers. I have a vortex that shot 189fps at 9gpp, and it is noticeably slower that my rer  takedown recurve. I haven't seen many bows that could outperform my rer recurve, especially not by that margin.  Then again, my drawlength is a little over 29".

[Nativestranger]

You gain about 10 fps for every extra inch of draw length. Similar to dropping 1 gpp. Which is why long draw archers have a big advantage.  They can shoot way over 200 fps without going under 9 gpp or damaging their bows.

[pdk25]

[Maxx Black]

Thanks for taking the time to do this test and post results as I have a Tall Tines going to be shipped from a member via the classifieds. Same specs 51#@28. The results are positive even though I shoot wood (fir) arrows 600-630 grns, it gives me something to look forward too. Ken

[parshal]

I forgot that the TT is a 62" bow while the RER is 60".  Not that at makes much difference but I just wanted to correct myself.

 

Originally posted by parshal:
All three combos are 60" bows and measured at 28".  I draw 27.5".

[Friend]

Nativestranger... Could you please qualify your previous statement?

I would question that if the draw length increased from 28" to 29"s, even including an ~3# draw wt increase, would yield as much as a 10 fps gain.

[pdk25]

Gotta agree with you on this one, friend.  And my gpp included the weight at my draw. The TT bows are very nice, but the stats for that RER would make it about the slowest one that I have seen.  Too bad.

[Sixby]

Several times I have seen people give results on bows that they chronographed under as good of conditions as they could that were over 20 fps off, Seen it both ways so I wouldn't get too upset about seeing one of my favorite bows showing slower speeds than I expect it too.
The only way to know for sure is to have them tested mechanicaly and under very professional controled circumstances.

Then you can go shoot it slower with your fingers LOL.    

God bless you all, Steve