Another shaft selection question.....

[caligator]

Hello all! So I am new to shooting traditional gear. Have shot the wheeled variety for 20+ years. I haveread the newbie information and still have some questions....

I am shooting a Treadway Black Swamp 45@28, 60". My measured draw lenghth is 30.5, to the front of the shelf. I would assume that I would shoot a 31" arrow, just to be safe. I really like the carbon arrows as I know I am going to be hard on them in the beginning. I know this because I shot the TBOF tournament this past weekend. So what would you guys recommend the carbon arrow world? Shooting split finger with a tab.

Thanks in advance.....

[caligator]

My above post is a little vague. What spine shafts do you all recommend? I guess aluminum wouldnt be out of the question as they are a little less expensive, but prefer carbon.

Thanks

[Shawn Leonard]

A .500 spine would be a great place to start at 31"s and point weight from 150 on up to 225. My best estimate would be right around 175 up front. Those bows are quick and shoot hard, you may be able to shoot a .400 spine but would need a lot of point weight, minimum of 275 but most likely more. Shawn

[scedvm]

If you are truly drawing 30.5" you will need more spine than what you think.  I have not shot that particular bow but with my 31" draw I shoot .300 or .340 spine on all my cut past center bows and .400's on my longbows and never do I get above 200gr tips if I try to bareshaft with 300gr I almost kill my neighbor, HAHA. These bows are all from 55-60# and I shoot arrows 32-32.5" depends on how I can get them to tune.  Good luck...Shawn

[Shawn Leonard]

Trust me, you will need no more spine than recommend, don't understand what alot of guys shoot but I do know carbons. Shawn

[Lone Ranger]

Can anyone recommend any specific shafting and a possible vendor or location to acquire said shafting at a good price?

I would love to hear from others that are shooting a treadway black swamp longbow-

L.R.

[scedvm]

Like I said you will get a lot of people telling you that you do not need much spine at 55-60 pounds but if you are drawing 30.5 or more and get to a 32" arrow they start doing really funny things.  I am not proclaiming to be an expert but have been shooting sticks for over 30 years and although I have only taken tuning seriously for the last 5 years or so since I made the switch to carbons long draws affect carbon tuning tremendously.  Good luck love to know how it works out....Shawn

[Lone Ranger]

Shawn(NY), and Shawn(NM) thanks for your insight- I was hoping that someone that actually shoots carbons out of a Treadway would chime in. Though I am thinking the best thing to do would be call Mike Treadway and see what he has to say on the subject!!!

I would still love to hear from real life users though!

L.R.

[SAVIOUR68]

Lone Ranger/caligator save your self lots of headaches and buy AD Trad Lites. They are the most versitle carbon shaft out there [IMO] and are very tolerant of a wider range of point weights.

[DaveT1963]

I'm with Shawn (NY) - the .500 is as high as I would go and I would keep a higher FOC (carbons like higher FOC).  Most of the advice for carbons I've seen here is way over-spined.  Carbon, aluminum and wood all recover differently.  You could use a .400 spined wood shaft no problem because it recovers slower.... carbon recovers far more quickly and thus shoots stiffer than wood/aluminum at the same deflection/spine.  I shoot 54 pounds (bow is 51# at 27.5 and I pull around 28 1/2 inches) with 29 1/2 inch carbons and 275 grains up front (175 BH + 100 grain inserts) and they bare shaft far better then .400 shafts.  Best bet is to get a test kit of carbons and some various field points and experiment as your release, form and a host of other variables also comes into play.  Carbon seem to be very sensitive to length adjustmens so go slow if you remove shaft material.... it is better to use point weight to verify before cutting.  For me, a high FOC and 35/55 GTs work best and they spine good for me anywhere from 40-65 pounds of draw... all I have to do is adjust the point weight a little.

[jerseyboy]

Im shooting #51@28" with beman 400 and 50 grn brass insert and 125 grn woodsmans. I dont know how you could shoot 31" with 500's no matter what. Unless your pulling #30

[Lone Ranger]

really appreciate the comments- (especially from the guys with gorilla long draw lengths!) haha

keep them coming!


L.R.

[Shawn Leonard]

I have shot carbons off most every bow out there, over 110 different custom bows. You will only be around 51#s with that Treadway and they are not cut way past center so again, a .500 spine will be fine even at 31"s long. Shawn

[gonefishing600]

Originally posted by scedvm:
If you are truly drawing 30.5" you will need more spine than what you think.  I have not shot that particular bow but with my 31" draw I shoot .300 or .340 spine on all my cut past center bows and .400's on my longbows and never do I get above 200gr tips if I try to bareshaft with 300gr I almost kill my neighbor, HAHA. These bows are all from 55-60# and I shoot arrows 32-32.5" depends on how I can get them to tune.  Good luck...Shawn

He's got my vote!

Or better yet with all due respect, don't listen to anyone that doesn't own a treadway and call Mike!

Apple to oranges, you want Apples to Apples!

Good Luck!

[Shawn Leonard]

Shot a Treadway for years and Dave and I are darn close, .300-.340 spine would be a joke even left full length unless the point weight was way up there. Shawn