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Iowabowhunter
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Need some help please!
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April 01, 2013, 02:29:00 AM »
Looking for arrow inserts weight over 100 grains that fit Easton FMJ's. Thanks!
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rbcorbitt
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Re: Need some help please!
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April 01, 2013, 06:39:00 AM »
Try using two inserts. You can take a 50/25 brass insert and put it in behind the 100 grain insert for the FMJ. Just epoxy it in.
Easier option is to just increase your point or broadhead adaptor weight.
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Re: Need some help please!
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April 01, 2013, 10:29:00 AM »
Three Rivers has 100 gr brass inserts for FMJ's.If you need more weight you can also mix and match with the break off 75 gr brass inserts.
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April 01, 2013, 11:48:00 AM »
I saw somewhere that Gold Tip makes inserts that accept a weight system behind them, basically the back end of the insert has female threads n there are little brass weight adapters. Basically the Beman arrows I have arent cutting it. They are 30" 400 spine with 75 grain inserts n 175 grain broadheads.
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You can stack those weights behind the GT inserts, or the Carbon Express inserts are threaded 8 x 32 all the way through. You can screw a brass bolt into the back of them as heavy as you want.
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Iowabowhunter
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April 01, 2013, 11:42:00 PM »
Does anybody know if I could heat up the point enough to pull the inserts out without damaging the arrow?
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tradhunter
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That will depend on the glue used to set the inserts, if you try it you will need to screw in a point and just heat the point not the carbon...I use a torch for that, just heat the tip for about 15-20 sec. Then try to twist-pull the point out with the insert. Hope it helps bud......after many diff. types of arrows I changed to Goldtip and screwed 300 gn. of brass behind the tip, hits like a hammer now!
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April 02, 2013, 12:12:00 AM »
Those HIT inserts were probably put in with epoxy. If you try to remove them by heating a screwed in field point, be very careful. There is a very find line between just enough heat to remove the insert, and just enough heat to ruin the shaft.
Also, the Gold Tip inserts will not fit in a FMJ.
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Ajooter
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April 02, 2013, 06:12:00 AM »
I just recently decided to join the extreme foc club. Im going to use a 100 grain brass insert with a 300 grain point. I assume your arrows are having a stiff reaction if you want more weight up front. There are plenty of companies that make a 300 grain broadhead now. You can always use a 200 grain broadhead and epoxy that onto a 100 grain steel adaptor.
That HIT epoxy can is good stuff if you dont want to ever have to take your inserts out. You can get them out with heat, but your usually going to compromise the arrow to get them out. For tuning the beman MFX shafts you can wrap seran wrap around the brass inserts and stuff them down in. You only need a wrap and half or so around the insert and they fit quite snuggly. Ive shot them into 3d targets like this and had no problem with inserts coming out. Depending on your tuning method (bare shaft or paper?) this can save you a lot of grief. Hope it helps keep having fun.
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BDann
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April 02, 2013, 07:30:00 AM »
I've use 8/32" brass rods screwed into the back of the insert, cut to provide the amount of weight I needed. It's very inexpensive, and not much trouble. I just weighed the entire section of rod, and calculated grains per inch and cut off what I needed with a hacksaw. I used some kind of thread lock to keep it in place, but I can't remember the brand.
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Iowabowhunter
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April 02, 2013, 08:37:00 AM »
The arrows fly pretty well, unfortunately I bought a doz VPA heads before my new string was stretched properly, so after I adjusted the brace height I found out that to get the arrow flight I'm looking for I need abt 200 grains for a point. But the main reason is that the arrows are only 502-505 grains, I'm shooting 57#'s and it was recommended to me by Mr. Wessel to get closer to the 10.5 gpi mark for a quieter bow, plus I like heavy arrows! Shouldn't have went with the cheap arrows in the first place
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