Montec G5's and Hellrazors...others

[Oliverstacy]

I have 3 Magnus stingers 4 blades that seem to fly true but just deciding if I want to go ahead and buy 3 more or try a 3 blade design.

Set-up...Martin Savannah 50 @28 pulled to around 29.5" with Beman Classic 500's.  Shots the 125 grain heads awesome, so I'm going to stick with them for now.

Broadheads I'm considering are the Magnus buzzcut's in the same weight as the ones I have.  Also considering some of the new Hellrazor's and the Montec G5's since they're a cut on impact head.  What about the Razorcaps?

What do the traditional hunters like or dislike about the shorter three blade designs?  Primarily going after deer but one never knows.  

Will the Snuffer 125 gr screw on head be too large for my set-up?  I have some older but good Nugent wackmasters…and could sharpen them up and hunt with them also.

Yardage won’t be over 18-20 yards tops…just now getting comfortable with taking shots over 15-17 yards.  Love to have a broadside shot at around 10-12 yards.

Will the buzzcuts limit the penetration or are they a better head than the regular stinger’s?

Thanks,

Josh

[Allan Hundeby]

There are a ton of threads re: 2- vs. 3- or 4-blade designs.  2-blades have some definite advantages, but the Search function should cover the 2- vs. 3- or 4-blade debate.  

I did a lot of thread-searching last year on this and other websites - and if --IF you are switching to a 3-blade - the Razorcaps get rave reviews for durability.  

However, the thing I like best about a fixed, cut-on-contact, 3-blade design is that they're childsplay to sharpen.  The triangle shape of broadheads like Montecs, Woodsmans, Snuffers or Razorcaps - as opposed to 2- or 4-blades - makes them practically sharpen themselves, as the design is inherently similar to a sharpening jig.  You only need to lay each of the three sides FLAT on your file/diamond plate/ceramic plate and push/slide.  There's little room for human error in angle-judging (except if you give the tips a tanto-edge).

[Oliverstacy]

I like the flight I'm getting with the Magnus and will use the three I have but I do like a three blade head.  I’d love to try the Woodsman but I need a screw on 125 gr head for my set-up.

I used NAP Nitrons last fall from my compound and liked the results...but the blade angle on those heads are way to severe for traditional, sometimes I wonder if they’re too severe for my compound.  I'm wondering what everyone thinks about the blade angle on the Montec's and the Hellrazor.  I have heard a lot of people that use Thunderheads and Muzzy's so they aren't any worse than those.  I think the Razorcaps would be a great head because of the longer design (closer to the 3:1 rule) but have heard of some failures...then again I had a Nitron bust a blade so anything can happen.  The doe died within sight so I can't complain too much.

I’ll do some searching and see what I can come up with.

Josh

[NoCams]

OS,
You are shooting carbon arrows, correct ? If you want to shoot a Woodsman, go ahead, the other 25 grains of weight is not going to change the dynamic spine of your arrows that much, if any. Carbons only resond to pretty drastic weight changes, 50grains or more as far as affecting spine. They do respond to lenght changes though much faster. I love the Woodsman head, give it a go ! May your arrow fly true this fall !!!

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[Oliverstacy]

Originally posted by NoCams:
OS,
You are shooting carbon arrows, correct ? If you want to shoot a Woodsman, go ahead, the other 25 grains of weight is not going to change the dynamic spine of your arrows that much, if any. Carbons only respond to pretty drastic weight changes, 50grains or more as far as affecting spine. They do respond to length changes though much faster. I love the Woodsman head, give it a go ! May your arrow fly true this fall !!!

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Yes you are correct about the carbons...Beman MFX Classic's, 500 spine. I ordered some of the 9/32 145 grain field points from 3Rivers and they seemed to fly to almost the exact same spot as the 125's.  Just haven't had a chance to bare shaft them so I didn't want to screw anything up.  I just seem to get great flight from the 125 grain points.

Anybody know about the buzzcut's and if they penetrate different, better or worse?  Also what about the 125 grain screw in Snuffers from my set-up...I think I'd get better penetration from a Montec or Hellrazor than one of these.


Josh

[NoCams]

OS,
Ever seen a surgeon use a serrated scalpel ??? Would you want him operating on you with a steakknife ? Don't get sidetracked, go with your gut and shoot a Montec or Snuffer that you mentioned. I like the woodsman due to the 3:1 ratio. It will outpenetrate a shorter wider head. Whatever you shoot, make sure you get it scalpel sharp and you will have a short blood trail. That is the main reason I shoot a woodsman, it is 3 blade with the legendary 3:1 ratio, AND , I can get it scalpel sharp with my file, stone, and leather strop. Never been a fan of 2 blades, yet this year I am going to try a Simmons Treeshark too. The reason,, it is wide enough, >2" !!!, and I can sharpen it shaving sharp with their wheeline sharpener and polish it with a leather strop. Will post hopefully after season opens with both a Treeshark pic and Woodsman pic.

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[NoCams]

OS,
One more thing..... I also like the magnus heads and their company ! Heard nothing but good things about them ! Also, I am a huge fan of the Nuge and I know he has killed several deer with the buzz cut and the standard stingers. Within the stinger line , if it were my choice, I would stick with something that I can sharpen and touch up which would be the regular stinger. I am also of the school of thought that if it is halfway sharp, put in both lungs or heart that all our talk here is kinda a moot point. We just overthink things sometimes, don't we ??? With that being said we also need to give our game the highest respect and make every effort to make the best shot we can with the sharpest head we can.... We owe them that and more !!!

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