I have used bears, zwickys, woodsmans, snuffers,simmons and a lot of ace's with good penetration, flight and short blood trails. I can sharpen bh's easily and as stated, placement of a sharp one is important. I have some of the new woodsmans elites, and they are one tough broadhead, did a great job on the game I have shot with them, but would never spend the money for new ones, got mine off folks from here and other sights in trades, much cheaper than new. I just dont see it being needed for deer, turkeys, and pigs or bears, ,mostly what I will be hunting the rest of my life. A lot of folks in todays society think they can spend their way to the top, whether it be high dollar rifles, scope and archery equipment of all types. Most folks today dont want to pay their dues, learn how to hunt, how to use their equipment or tune it to work best for them, trad folks seem to be the exception to this rule, for the most part. I can see where there are advantages to using the best you can get, but whether it is needed or wanted is two entirely different things. One guy at our local gun range last year was PO'd because I helped him mount a scope, and zero his rifle, shot a very tight group. He could not duplicate it, or come close, with his $3000 set up. When he asked why the rifle would not shoot for him, what was wrong with it, I explained that if he shot between 3000-5000 rounds a year doing load development, zeroing rifles, shooting varmints, long range competitions and offhand competition along with hunting, for over 25 years, I am sure the rifle would shoot just as well for him, in other words, what we learn to do as humans, is done so by a process, not an event, it takes time.