Originally posted by bro-n-arrow: Ijust start out my back door,get in my car and drive to the freeway where I sit with thousands of others trying to get someplace but nothing is moving.Finally hours later I reach the national forest which is nothing more than burn't brush and rattlesnakes. The rugged hillsides are so crowded with hunters and others, mostly anti-hunters, that I can't find a parking space. someone saw some deer there once, before they stopped shooting the mountain lions.This has got to be the hardest hunting in the nation!