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Offline rockkiller

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carbon footing question
« on: May 10, 2013, 11:33:00 PM »
I'm trying to foot a 35/55 gold tip with a 2117 and it ain't going good.I tryed sanding the carbon some,but I still cant get the 2117 over the carbon.Is there some way to bore out the 2117 a little?
Thanks for any help.

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Re: carbon footing question
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2013, 12:25:00 AM »
Clean up your internal lips on your 2117. you can get a nice reamer at the gun shop, (I think a .38 cal. will work about $10 +-). Then cool down your carbons in the fridge or freezer and warm up your 2117. Should be a great fit.
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Re: carbon footing question
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2013, 07:08:00 AM »
The bore chamfer/deburring tool works great and I just got one from my brother last week and it actually takes that inside burr and removes it cleanly...
You can also get a brass bore cleaning brush at a gun shop or wal-mart in the archery,gun area in a single pack and put it in a battery drill and hold the footing tight and run the brush through several times on a low speed...It may get warm if you do it too long but it works great and preps the inside also...
Now what I liked better then the chamfer tool was I took a regular round pencil and cut it about 3 " and slid the footing onto the pencil and put the pencil in the drill chuck and took a reg. file and let it lay on an angle to chamfer the outside...
I then used that deburring side of the reamer/deburr tool and let it clean the inside then used that bristle brush..
 A few folks have told me the 2117 won't fit good on a 15/35 or 35/55 gold tip but I beg to differ cause they slide very well on my 15/35 and 35/55 gold tips but I just need to glue them yet and I'm finished...   :archer2:

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Re: carbon footing question
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2013, 11:21:00 AM »
2216! Shawn
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Re: carbon footing question
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2013, 11:25:00 AM »
Yeah I did some but they were CE 150 and used 2216. I'm not sure of the numbers on Gold Tips,but I would think if you were having that hard of a time with the 2117 this might be the way to go. I also as above used a good reaming tool.

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Re: carbon footing question
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2013, 01:01:00 PM »
Just glued up some 2117 footings on my 15/35 and I was able to slide it on with no problem...I actually took my thumb and middle finger and gently plucked it on and it slid all the way up to my arrow wrap....I saw that Charlie Lamb had a sizing chart and the 2117 fits both the 15/35 and 35/55 G.T.'s...Shawn I am new to the footings as well and just curious to why the 2216's    :dunno:   I actually had a few good folks say 2117 and 2216   :confused:   I'm just very curious if there is a better reason to use a 2216 rather then the 2117?

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Re: carbon footing question
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2013, 01:40:00 PM »
Maybe trad/camo vs. black makes a difference

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Re: carbon footing question
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2013, 01:47:00 PM »
I used a chain saw file on the aluminum. Good luck. Makes a crash proof arrow
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Re: carbon footing question
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2013, 01:57:00 PM »
I have been able to heat up the footing which causes it to expand. That may solve your problem.
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Re: carbon footing question
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2013, 02:24:00 PM »
I tried sanding 3555s a little to get 2117s to fit.  It weakened them up a little and I broke a few.  But I miss real good and hit hard things like rocks.  I have used 2114s when 2117s were too tight.
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Re: carbon footing question
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2013, 03:06:00 PM »
Ron,
 Wouldn't the 2114"s be even more tight or did you mean 2214?

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Re: carbon footing question
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2013, 05:04:00 PM »
2114 inside dia. would be larger than 2117 by .003
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Re: carbon footing question
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2013, 06:56:00 PM »
What are you cutting the 2117 with? If a tube/pipe cutter you will need to open the ends/chaffer or sand them till you get past the area that the cutter compressed(made   :thumbsup:   on GT3555 Iron insert helps glide&glues them on  :archer:
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Re: carbon footing question
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2013, 12:38:00 AM »
Thanks for the help.I will try all the suggestions.I was cutting the 2117s with a arrow saw and running a little brush threw it and couldn't get it on,even broke a couple gold tips.

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Re: carbon footing question
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2013, 06:47:00 AM »
Deburr is the answer to why it isn't going on so easily and I bet once you do that and do it cleanly you will be surprised...Now the insert isn't glued in already is it?
Just curious is all  :rolleyes:    :D

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Re: carbon footing question
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2013, 07:27:00 AM »
I used the deburr tool on a tube cutter and have tryed two different style 2117s.The insert is not in the shaft.Maybe I just got some fat gold tips.I did try a 2216 and it is a little sloppy.
I don't know spit about carbons , but I thought I try em.Im a little hesitant to stump shoot without the footing.I ain't got the name rockkiller for nothing  :bigsmyl:

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Re: carbon footing question
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2013, 09:41:00 AM »
I had a dozen camo 3555s and they seemed to be slightly bigger than my blems.  The 2114s worked better on them.
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Re: carbon footing question
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2013, 02:10:00 PM »
Cause 2216's are a perfect fit! They go on snug and are a bit tougher than the 2117s as well. If you use a pipe cutter just take a knife and soin the footing around the blade a time or two with light pressure. You will not have an issue with either size if you have an arrow saw. Shawn
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Re: carbon footing question
« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2013, 02:19:00 PM »
If the 2216 is too loose for you,go with a 2219.It is smaller ID than the 2216 and tougher than both.

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Re: carbon footing question
« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2013, 04:59:00 PM »
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2114 inside dia. would be larger than 2117 by .003
:confused:   I thought the lower the number the tighter the fit not looser?
  Shawn does that mean those 2216's are tighter or looser?  I'm kind of confused now because I always thought that was bigger then a 2117 and those 2114 were smaller inside diameter ? Does this make sense  :dunno:

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