I bought some VAP arrow shafts and made a dozen arrows. Most expensive arrows I've ever shot. First time out on the range, I skipped one off the top of a target bale and it drifted 50 - 80 yards back of the target into some weeds. I've been back 3 times looking for it, twice with my metal detector. Found 8 or so other arrows, but not the one I lost. The difficulty is that the weeds are high and it's hard to get the metal detector close to the ground, and there's not much metal in the VAP's to pick up, so I think all I'm doing is finding other people's arrows. I've seriously considered bringing my weed wacker from home and weed wacking the whole lot, even though I know that would be a ridiculous waste of time even for a $15 arrow, but that's how much it bugged me to lose that arrow on the very first shot.