Byron Fergusons "Tuning for Extreme Accuracy"

[Brianlocal3]

I received Byrons New DVD in the mail yesterday.  It is titled "Tuning for Extreme Accuracy", the DVD runs aprox 43min and focuses on Byrons tuning techniques.  

If you have seen BareBow 101, Byron goes into a little bit about adjusting nock height and brace height to "fine tune" your bareshaft for straight flight, but leaves a lot of questions.  With the new DVD he starts with setting up the bow, and using arrow  charts to get you close to the spine you may need.  From there he shows how he bareshaft tunes starting from a full length arrow, by cutting down a little at a time until your get a straight stick in the target.  After words he checks with paper tune.  

He then goes into detail about "ultra fine tuning" with silencers, contact point, brace height etc.  I get the vibe from his body language and tone that this is something he proabaly doesn't concern himself with all too much, but the info is there if you are  tinkerer.  

Now, as with all of his videos and videos made by people who are sponsored, there are plugs in there for products such as the illuminock, tip velociter, Heavy hunter arrows etc, but it is not done in a manner that takes away from the film.  And lets face it, he is sponsored and he needs to promote the products.  

Overall I feel it is a great video, done in a  manner that more closely relates to how I have 'TRIED" to tune before as the O.L. Adock method is not for me.  I will try it out on some arrows I have laying around here that should work for my bow.  I will give ya'll an update on it later.  

Brian

[McDave]

Thanks, I'll have to try that. I never liked OL's method either, and preferred the method taught by Ken Beck.  Ken's method stops with the arrow, however, and I have always been interested in the ultra fine techniques you mention.

[Brianlocal3]

Ok, so i took some time off of getting my house ready to sell and stepped outside with the goal of actually tunning some arrows for the first time in my life. I typically by arrows fletched and just change out points and BH until they fly like I want.
my bow is a JD Berry Morningstar 50@26" drawing 26". I shoot three under so I started my nock at 5/8". Arrows were full length bemoan ICS 500, and I want to shoot 175grn tips. Following Byrons instructions, I ended up with 28 1/4" BOP with 175 gr FP and 175 grn Woodsman elite BH. I stopped when I thought the bare shaft was close and I fletched up three arrows. I shot 3 FP and WOW. So thats what its like to have an arrow fly right!!!! So the real test was my BH and 3 out of 3 in the bull at 20yds.

I stepped back to 60 yds just to see the arrows fly and it is unbelievable. I had read all about tuning inside and out but was always skeptical to start cutting shafts for fear of running them and losing money, but I am beyond blown away. Next weekend I am going to tune up my Vixen and Misty Dawn the same way and see what happens.

My vixen is fine I believe as my BH are hitting with my FP so I wont do much but shoot some BS just to see.

The misty dawn just lost her arrows because I donated them to the Morningstar for practice and it worked out.

Finished arrows are 437 grains for 8.64 GPP. and they are sweet.

[Brianlocal3]

Oh and after running the numbers thru the spine calculator my arrow has a dynamic spine of 58.8 and my bow a dynamic spine of 48.8.  I don't know where put the infer in wrong at but thats what I came up with.

[monsterbuck]

Sounds like an interesting video. I know somebody who loves to tinker, he would love it. Thanks. God bless.

[Lineman72]

Thanks for the input brian, good luck with the rest of your tuning!

[ishoot4thrills]

Originally posted by Brianlocal3:
Oh and after running the numbers thru the spine calculator my arrow has a dynamic spine of 58.8 and my bow a dynamic spine of 48.8.  I don't know where put the infer in wrong at but thats what I came up with.

Glad you were successful in your tuning process. There's nothing like the confidence you get when you're getting really true, great arrow flight.    

The biggest problem people have with the spine calculator is that they fail to enter the correct amount of center shot their bow has and fail to realize just how important this entry is in relation to finding the correct arrow for their bow. Just being a little off makes a HUGE difference. The thickness of the side plate MUST be considered in the measurement entered for it to work right and be an accurate guide for tuning.

As for me personally, I've always found that the method O.L. Adcock describes works flawlessly for me with every bow/arrow combo I've tried it with.

[katman]

Thanks for the review, I still like to bare shaft plane and incorporate the fine tuning methods you describe. Confidence in your set up is good.

[Brianlocal3]

Ishoot,

thanks, it does feel great to have utmost confidence in the set up. Knowing that is tuned it and didn't just luck into a good flying shaft is great.  

For those who have perfected the O.L. Adcock method, like yourself, this way will seem rudimentary I'm sure, but for the tuning challenged like myself this method was a lifesaver. Thanks for the comment.

[Brianlocal3]

Ttt for anyone interested

Originally posted by Brianlocal3:
Oh and after running the numbers thru the spine calculator my arrow has a dynamic spine of 58.8 and my bow a dynamic spine of 48.8.  I don't know where put the infer in wrong at but thats what I came up with.

Have you tinkered with the Person Form Factor on the spine calculator? (I assume you are talking about Stu Miller's calculator)

If you input an arrow that you know is properly tuned and it does not match your bow, you can adjust the PFF until you get them to match.

After you get that matched up, always leave the PFF set at that number. In the future (at least in my experience) you can input any arrow combination that matches your bow and it will be real close to right straight out of the calculator.

Bisch

[Friend]

Always interested in a exploring an improved possibly more simplistic method.

Did bareshaft tune at 30 yards, three different set-ups out of three different bows. For kicks, I shot all three thru paper and all provided bullet holes 3 out of 4 times. Note: One can only tune as well as one can shoot. Also, shot BH's out of all three set-ups at ~3 yards and 25 yards....all set-ups were golden.

Today, I bareshaft tune back to 40 yards. Hopefully, shooting form improvements will permit me to extend that range. Often times my shooting sessions and occasionally when shooting 3D's, I strictly shoot  bare shafts. Note: Olympic archers may bare shaft tune out to 70 yards.

If there is an improved and more simplistic method, I am all ears.

[Brianlocal3]

Scott, you are far better than I bud. Thus why I opt for the simpler method.  

[DanielB89]

May i ask how you trim your arrows while paper tuning?  
- assuming you trim the end that has the nock in it..

[Brianlocal3]

If papertuning, I trimmed from the point end. I didn't put anything in the insert I just pushed them in so I could them out later.

[Blaino]

When you fellows bare shaft do you have the bow perfectly vertical or shoot with your natural cant?

[Brianlocal3]

I shot with my natural cant like Byron showed.

[DaveT1963]

Thanks Brian - just ordered my copy from Kustom King - along with a few other goodies ;-)

[b.glass]

I have done well with O.L. Adcock's method but I am always open minded to other's thoughts and method's. I may try Mr. Ferguson's method soon.

[Bjorn]

Mostly I use OL's method. I shoot bareshafts with the bow perfectly vertical, canting will affect the flight. I bareshaft out to 25 yards to check what I worked out on paper beforehand.