How fast is fast?

[graybark uk]

My 55 lb buffalo shoots my 505gn fmj's at 184 fps ,I think that's fast ...enough
   

[**DONOTDELETE**]

I think 180 at 10 GPP is in the "Not Bad" category.... i wouldn't categorize a bow as being "Fast" until you tip the 190 FPS mark.... then again.... i'm kind of picky about performance.

here is one i call "fast"   52"  Yeti, 9 GPP 27" draw. glass over bocote limbs  191 FPS....

10 gpp 188 at 27" draw..... at 28" this bow breaks the 190 fps mark at 10gpp.

anything over 200 fps at 10 gpp is SMOKIN!    

 

 

My go-to Sarrels Blueridge longbow gets 177fps at 10.6gpp. My bow is 50# at my 29.5"DL.

Bisch

[Air Cleaver]

That Yeti is gorgeous!

[RLA]

The Yeti can't get here fast enough Kirk! Can't wait to shoot it. The Pic's you sent me look great, the non-shelf side of that riser looks even better! The limb veners look awesome & it sounds like she's a shooter.

[Gen273]

That sounds fairly fast to me, I bet they are a lot of bows out there that will not shoot 180 fps at 10 gpp drawn to 28.

[Moots]

That is a great looking Yeti Kirk.

[duncan idaho]

Speed is good..... Accuracy is final" - Wild Bill Hickock

If it seems fast to you, and you can put them right in the heart... 'nuff said!!!
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amen to that.

186,282 miles per second is as fast as you're going to get without warp drive on your arrow.


He asked a legitimate question about traditional bow speed, not knowing he was opening hmself up to the typical responses above. I always find it amazing so many people go into spasms when someone askes a speed question, you could just ignore these threads and read the ones you enjoy more.

[Fanto]

The caribou peregrine shoots 193 at 9gpp so maybe 185 at 10gpp
Can't wait for mine! Speeds got very little to do with it, but faster is good if there's still quietness and smooth draw

[duncan idaho]

IMO, speed has a lot to do with it. flatter shooting, less mental adjustment, arrow will zip through tight spots,etc...modern bows with good speed gives us a better performing weapon.

[gringol]

These threads always start a bruhaha.  Guys will say things like "silence is better than speed" or "smooth is better than fast."  Truth is, if all the other touchy feely intagibles are taken out of the equation, we all will choose the fastest bow we can get our hands on 100% of the time. Anyone who says otherwise is only kidding themself.

[Moots]

My EagleWing longbow is one of the smoothest and quietest bows I have --- and it is fast.  And all other things being equal, I do prefer a fast bow.

[Mudd]

Fast is when the arrow is in the dirt on the offside before that animal knows it's been shot....lol

God bless,Mudd

[Tajue17]

what mudd said ^

[cbCrow]

I always like to read these type of threads because of the many opinions expressed, with most taking a position their way is the only right way. So lets put this question in its proper perspective with simple math. The formula to find time is T=D/R with D being distance, and R being the rate or speed so here goes. I chose 15 yds.(45 feet) as distance to target, 3 rates of 190fps,175fps,160fps as the speed.

T= 45/190=.23684 seconds(A)
T=45/175=.25714 seconds(B)
T=45/160=.28125 seconds (C)

So: A-B=.0203 or 20/1000 seconds sooner to target
    B-C=.02411 or 24/1000 sec. to target
    A-C=.04441 or 44/1000sec. to target
So it takes arrow C approx less than a half of a second longer to get to target, show me a way to relate to that in real time. Facts are indeed facts and things that can be put into the truth!

[old_goat2]

Originally posted by cbCrow:
I always like to read these type of threads because of the many opinions expressed, with most taking a position their way is the only right way. So lets put this question in its proper perspective with simple math. The formula to find time is T=D/R with D being distance, and R being the rate or speed so here goes. I chose 15 yds.(45 feet) as distance to target, 3 rates of 190fps,175fps,160fps as the speed. In reality, I highly doubt he had finished his 180degree spin before the arrow got there, but he had completed enough of it to be out of harms way and by the time I could put together what all had happened, I had boogered up what would be my only shot presentation of the whole season.

T= 45/190=.23684 seconds(A)
T=45/175=.25714 seconds(B)
T=45/160=.28125 seconds (C)

So: A-B=.0203 or 20/1000 seconds sooner to target
    B-C=.02411 or 24/1000 sec. to target
    A-C=.04441 or 44/1000sec. to target
So it takes arrow C approx less than a half of a second longer to get to target, show me a way to relate to that in real time. Facts are indeed facts and things that can be put into the truth!

Two years ago, I missed a gimme shot at close range, the surprised bull sprinted out to 30 yards and stood broadside again, the bow I was shooting was no slouch, about 182fps. The second shot was a beautiful shot, I watched as it sailed harmlessly through the spot where the elks heart had been a split second before. By the time the arrow got there, he spun 180degrees and was facing the exact opposite direction, I imagine almost half a second to target faster wouldn't of helped much, but it might of!

[TxAg]

Originally posted by cbCrow:
I always like to read these type of threads because of the many opinions expressed, with most taking a position their way is the only right way. So lets put this question in its proper perspective with simple math. The formula to find time is T=D/R with D being distance, and R being the rate or speed so here goes. I chose 15 yds.(45 feet) as distance to target, 3 rates of 190fps,175fps,160fps as the speed.

T= 45/190=.23684 seconds(A)
T=45/175=.25714 seconds(B)
T=45/160=.28125 seconds (C)

So: A-B=.0203 or 20/1000 seconds sooner to target
    B-C=.02411 or 24/1000 sec. to target
    A-C=.04441 or 44/1000sec. to target
So it takes arrow C approx less than a half of a second longer to get to target, show me a way to relate to that in real time. Facts are indeed facts and things that can be put into the truth!

I like this.

[pamike]

speed testing is something i just like to play around with.  I will not keep a bow unless it is QUIET and accurate, but there are quite a few bow that are very quiet and accurate - the fun part has been finding bows that are also fast.  Speed is not required but if it is "free" (dont lose quiet or accurate) then i absolutely want is much as i can get.  Animal reaction times and flat trajectories are important to our success.

All that being said - Steve and Kirk are building bows that will do all three!! i just got my new chrono yesterday and get to start playing tonight.  I think i have two bows that will do 200+ at 9GPP. One of which might be close to 210......

[Stumpknocker]

I definitely like objectivity. I like fast bows, too.

Not meaning to derail this thread, but the next question is how fast can a deer dodge far enough to compromise a shot? I would love to see data on that.

[Atennishu]

I have a sasquatch that will hit speeds from 205 to 210 with a 400 grain arrow,  My draw is 30.5 inches
and it is very accurate, if that bow misses, its not the bow, its me