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Author Topic: Jackson Hole Artifacts  (Read 506 times)

Offline TimZeigler

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Jackson Hole Artifacts
« on: September 01, 2007, 10:29:00 AM »
I was going through some things that have been in storage since I was a kid, I knew my grandfather had given me some artifacts that he found while elk hunting in the Jackson Hole and I wanted to share them with everyone.  If you have any information regarding these things please share them with me, as I'm not well versed in certain eras of stone points.  The biggest point, is probibly 4 inches long, and about an  1 1/2 wide. The top peice is petrified wood.
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Jackson Hole Artifacts
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2007, 10:54:00 AM »
Cool stuff Tim.

A head 4" long would definitly be a spear point. Probably the one across your fingers too. It is simply amazing that primitive man figured out how to shape rock into projectile points.

I can't tell you anything about the age, but I can tell you the ones I hunt with are a lot straighter and sharper than those    :biglaugh:  

Goes to show just how talented the knappers are today.
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Re: Jackson Hole Artifacts
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2007, 01:24:00 PM »
You're lucky to have those-  It's something to hold handiwork that old-

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Re: Jackson Hole Artifacts
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2007, 01:50:00 PM »
Mickey, I thought the same thing about the larger point.  The ingenuity shown by the makers of these tools is amazing, and their general shape is used still today.  The crafters of today are masters for sure.

Hardhed, you don't know how lucky I am to have them...while on a hunting trip in Jackson Hole in the early 80's my grandfather survived a grizzly attack that could have easily proven fatal.  They are something special for sure.
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Re: Jackson Hole Artifacts
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2007, 02:02:00 PM »
Tim, I remember a guide with a bowhunter client getting attacked in the early 80's in that area. Bear knocked the bow out of his hands with the charge. While being mauled he found one of the arrows and jammed it upward severing the carotid artery killing the bear. Can't remember his name. Wasn't your grandfather was it?
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Re: Jackson Hole Artifacts
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2007, 02:12:00 PM »
excellent holdings. Ponder where they go after you are gone. I would type the story that goes with them and keep it all together.

Spear and atlatl points, all of them, imo
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Re: Jackson Hole Artifacts
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2007, 02:28:00 PM »
No mickey it wasn't him, he was rifle hunting in 1984 (56 years old) alone and on his way back to camp when he unkowingly walked through an area where the guides had buried a dead horse.  All he saw was a puff of white snow and the bear was on him.  Mauled him a little bit, and knocked him down an embankment.  He walked back to the nearest camp for help.
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Re: Jackson Hole Artifacts
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2007, 02:44:00 PM »
lovely bits! look after them mate!
one day ille get to flatirons place!

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Re: Jackson Hole Artifacts
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2007, 04:52:00 PM »
The stemmed point looks to be a Hanna-Northern, middle to late Archaic 4600-3500bp, material is Basalt?. The others are knife forms, well they are all knife forms, but the bigger one is Basalt. Projectile points were very small for the most part. Nice group of relic's, Thanks for the look.

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Re: Jackson Hole Artifacts
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2007, 05:43:00 PM »
That is a nice selection of points, thanks for sharing.
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Re: Jackson Hole Artifacts
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2007, 05:54:00 PM »
hey bro they are real awesome. i love history especially native american history it is fascinating. do you or any one else know if there is any place that you can see that sort of thing near bob walkers place? or do ya have to travel miles?
wolfman jeff  :thumbsup:  thank ya so much for sharing that with us bro
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Re: Jackson Hole Artifacts
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2007, 05:55:00 PM »
SUP TIM?

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Re: Jackson Hole Artifacts
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2007, 05:59:00 PM »
Mickey, I believe you're thinking of the Ed Wiseman attack. That happened in Colorado of all places.

Sad thing about that case was they accused him of intentionally killing the bear. Made a big deal out of it because grizzlies were thought to be absent from Colorado at the time. Took a long time to straighten that mess up and clear his name if I remember right, and he was hurt pretty bad. I had a friend hunt cats with Ed and he said Ed would probably be one of the last guys to ever illegally take a protected animal.

Those are some beautiful old points. Anybody have a guess as to the age?
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Re: Jackson Hole Artifacts
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2007, 09:53:00 PM »
That's it Tom, Ed Wiseman. Thought that was in Wyoming, but you are undoubtedly right. I know it was in an area they thought was absent of Grizzlys. Yes he was mauled badly and spent quite a while in the hospital recovering. Grizzlys are nothing to mess with, they will sho nuff put a hurtin on you. Thanks for jogging the memory, it is becoming like a fishing net with a large hole in the bottom these days.
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