Easton Axis 400 ? ?

[Spitfire Htr]

I was given 6 new Easton Axis 400 shafts by an old friend and had originally intended to shoot them out of a 44# bow. After researching on here a little, I found that most seem to use them with much heavier draw weights. My first question is, can I shoot them out of my 55# @ 28" bow with a 28.5" draw length? The second question, how can I get my gpp up to at least 9-10 gpp when these shafts are only 9.0 gpi? Are these shafts just spine tolerant?                                   Thanks for the help and God Bless, Steve

[lpcjon2]

You can play with inserts and head weight to get what you are looken for. Im a wood guy but others will post the tricks for carbon/alum type arrows.

[Prairie Drifter]

First, you want 10 GPP(grains per pound). GPI is grains per inch. Two different things.

You should be able to use them on your 55# bow. As lpcjon2 said, play w/ tip weight.

[pamike]

I am using them at 51# and they work great. My favorite shaft.

[habujohn]

I shoot 400's out of my 52 lb longbow and switch to 340's for my 58 lb bow.
John

[Spitfire Htr]

Originally posted by Prairie Drifter:
First, you want 10 GPP(grains per pound). GPI is grains per inch. Two different things.

You should be able to use them on your 55# bow. As lpcjon2 said, play w/ tip weight.

Your right...fixed it, thanks.

[JRY309]

I shoot Easton Axis 400 N-fused with 75 gr. brass insert and 125 gr. point out of a Zipper ZSR 52#@27.The arrows weigh 495 grs. total.You can get more weight with a 100 gr. insert,would put you around 520 grs.

[Stixbowdrew]

My favorite! I use them at 31" with 200 grains out front I wouldn't worry too much or at all really about the GPP of eichler can use a 480grain arrow on just about everything on the super slam, they'll work for you,

[Spitfire Htr]

Thanks for the responses thus far. My biggest concern is if the arrow spine will be able to hold up to the amount of point weight I will need to get my gpp up to sufficient hunting weight, if that makes sense. What do you guys think the bop and point weight might be? Just a "ball park" idea will do. My draw length is 28.5" and -1/8 past center cut. This is just so I will know when I might be getting close.
God Bless, Steve

[damascusdave]

The more your riser is cut past center the more tolerant of some mismatch of spine it is going to be...plus the Axis is a small diameter arrow...I tend to hunt with the Full Metal Jacket version of the Axis, the standard 16 grain inserts and either 175 or 200 grain broadheads...I use them full length of 31.5 or 32 inches...I get better flight with 340 spine and 55 to 60 pound bows...I still get acceptable, slightly weak, flight with the 400's...cut yours to 29.5 bop...play around a bit with insert and point weight, and use lots of fletch with lots of helical just to be sure and do not fuss about getting all the way to 10 gpp...they will work fine...and like a "free" cat remember that "free" arrows are never quite what they seem

DDave

[Stixbowdrew]

Read my above post, you don't need crazy weight Fred eichler killed all but two animals I believe of the super slam with an easton axis a standard easton insert and 125 gr muzzy phantoms, don't get hung up on weight, just make sure your arrows fly true and you have very sharp broadheads, I only run 200 grains on the front of my only because that's what they bare shafted best with, the whole arrow weight FOC thing is great when hunting cape buff, unless you're hunting dangerous game don't get too worried

[Ray Lyon]

I've shot Easton Axis 400's cut to 29.5 inches from my 59# Super Shrew Samurai for years. I had 220 grains (combined point and insert weight) up front and the total arrow weight was around 550 grains.  They flew like lazer beams and penetrated like a runaway freight train.

  Figure out what's needed up front to get your setup flying perfect and don't worry to much about the gpp.  I think mine was about 9 gpp.

[Bill Carlsen]

The 400's I shoot out of my 55# Max I limbs like a point weight of 150 grains, according to my bare shaft results. I can shoot 340s if I shoot 250 grains.

[Spitfire Htr]

Originally posted by Bill Carlsen:
The 400's I shoot out of my 55# Max I limbs like a point weight of 150 grains, according to my bare shaft results. I can shoot 340s if I shoot 250 grains.

Hey Mr. Carlsen, I am planning on shooting  them from those 55# limbs I got from you last summer for that Groves bow. They worked great BTW and thank you again.

[Bill Carlsen]

I am glad that you are pleased. In essence the only time they were shot was when I tuned them. Never had to use them as back ups. Boy, I wish Groves was still in business.

[Spitfire Htr]

Ok, this is weird to me. I started off with a full length shaft and 200gr. point just for kicks. I got bullet holes through paper at 6 feet. Fletched one up and got a very slight tear right. Next I backed up to 15 yards and my fletched arrows looked real good in flight, but were impacting left of my poa. My bare shafts were consistently hitting on the same level, just about 8 inches to the left of the fletched arrows and nock right. Can someone please explain this situation for me.
Thanks and God Bless, Steve

[Spitfire Htr]

ttt for advice

[LostNation_Larry]

I would put heavier points on just to see what changes.  Sometimes you cant tell what the problem is until you start changing things.  You also might try lighter just for the purpose of exploring.

[Bill Carlsen]

I had the same problem with the 400's and couldn't figure it out. The guys on another site got me squared away....went from 200 grains to 150 and they fly great. Bare shafting confirms it.

[Bill Carlsen]

I had the same problem with the 400's and couldn't figure it out. The guys on another site got me squared away....went from 200 grains to 150 and they fly great. Bare shafting confirms it.