arrow hitting riser?

[runningbird]

I'll attach some pictures of my arrow.  You can see the marks left on it from it hitting my riser.  I can not figure out how to fix this.

I shoot lt handed, arrows are GT 5575 with 50g insert and 150gr tip. it seems to hit even with different weight tips.  and it its hard/ very loud in my opinion. if i shoot thru paper up close it is a perfect tear, bullet hole.  but at 6' it is a 3" nock high tear with the nock end a little to the left.  bear shafts shoot right with fletched shafts.

 


 

thanks for any help!

[Bud B.]

Any pics of your riser? Where you believe arrow is hitting it?

[runningbird]

 

the mark on the arrow is in a direct line with the yellow feather in the corner of the riser.

[Gump21Bravo]

You shoot 3 under or split?

Where is your nocking point now? Do you have a nocking point above and below the nock?

Weight of your bow and your draw? How long the arrows?

Just a few things we may need to give some advice on how to remedy this problem.

But from what your saying your nock point is high. The arrow is saying its stiff since you are a left handed shooter. Have you tried to lower the nock height all the way down to get the arrow showing nock low?

edit: From the pictures your brace height looks low to me what is it at now?

[Bud B.]

If you shoot cock feather out and looking at the marks on the riser it appears the bottom of the arrow is hitting the back of the shelf near the black leather grip. If I'm correct this indicates nock low (arrow striking the shelf) thereby kickng the arrow up giving a false high.

Move nock point up 1/8" and so on until good fight is achieved.


Once that is tackled, increase brace to see what happens. I go four turns at a time and check.


One adjustment at a time and check arrow flight for a 1/2 doz or so shots in between.

[runningbird]

thanks for the help.

I shoot three under.  nock is at 7/16ths brace height is at 7 1/4 the bow is a liberty edge. 47lbs at 28" I draw 30" the arrows are full lenth 32".

[Bud B.]

Movements on nock height might be very minimal....1/16th" each move.

[Bud B.]

I also use double string nocks when shooting three under. One above and one below arrow nock.

[runningbird]

the area on the grip was caused by me cutting away rest material.  not the arrow.  I should have included that with my pictures. sorry for the confusion.
Mark

[Bud B.]

I saw that, but, the marks on your arrow indicate it's hitting the black leather.

[runningbird]

OK now I have confused myself.... Bud I think you are correct.  I thought I had made a mistake and cut that away but I was wrong.  I just put some two sided tape on that spot and shot.  small pieces of feather were left on the tape after just one shot. I then repeated the process with the same results. indicating that I am hitting that spot!  so at least I now know where I am hitting and I must be getting a false high.

Also I do have two tied on nocks.

[Bud B.]

I think you'll get it. Keep us posted  

[macbow]

One thought is on your form. Is your shooting elbow in line with the shaft at full draw?
I have had the experience where a,really high elbow caused enough pressure on the string to,actually put a bend in the shaft at full draw. All sorts of,contact on shelf results.

[runningbird]

I have my nock just under a 1/2" and still hitting the riser on the back side.  Thru paper it shows just a bit nock high.  Arrow is still kicking a bit.  Do I keep going with the nock?

thanks

[Bud B.]

Some bows, if tillered for split, will have a higher nock point if shooting three under. Some as high as 3/4" or more.

Keep going and see how it goes.

[runningbird]

Thanks again Bud, I'll keep moving on up!

[LookMomNoSights]

Here's one for ya.....your arrows are WAY too stiff, my man!!!  You should be shooting a 3555!  Just sayin'!  

[runningbird]

well I wondered about that,  But the Stu calculator said they were dead on so that's what I went with.  not to mention the 3555 are only 30" long and I draw just a hair over 30"

[LookMomNoSights]

Hmmm.....I know I buy the .006's (which supposedly arent as straight)....but I want to say you can get the .003's in 32" length?!  Dont quote me,  I could be wrong on that....
You can always load the front up on what ya got and see if anything changes....maybe if you get closer to 275 - 300 on the point,  you might see your problem go away ......

[LookMomNoSights]

I was just checking.....3555 max length is 30.5......bummer!  More weight up front I guess!