I had one that that I traded which had the triple flare with Burl cocobolo and tiger maple riser, Tonkin cores with tiger maple veneers that cost me 1250.00 when the new black widows where 920.00 so if I still had it I'd try to get 600 but wouldn't sell it for any less than 500.00 and I think its just because I was the original buyer and its age now. if you find someone who picked one up used it may be a lot cheaper but John made A grade wood bows and he made AAA grade wood bows, and because he passed away I'd say that ups the value too if you find something unique..