I have been to Lincoln Ranch twice. They have javies in certain real thick areas and alot of hogs, but mostly hunting over feeders at dusk and overnight. Spot and stalk is real tough because it is so thick. I had a lot of fun and was successful both trips, but I think 12 is as many as they can handle. The owner is super nice, although he isn't a hunter. Deer hunting would be tough, as this is where they really make their money. I will probably go there again in the spring. Smoking Joes idea sounds a little better since it would have better stalking opportunities.