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Author Topic: Shooting the best groups of my life, but.....  (Read 440 times)

Offline KyRidgeRunner

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Shooting the best groups of my life, but.....
« on: August 19, 2013, 09:28:00 PM »
I just recently acquired a new long bow.  It a toelke whip 43 at 26.  I'm pulling around 27" and shooting A gold tip 600 spine arra 29.25" with a 145gr head and 3 4" lw shield cut feathers.  I'm shooting sub 2" groups at 20 yard with this bow however I'm 8" to the left and dead nuts up and down! Any ideas out there? I need to get er lined up before sept 7 th! Thanks.

Offline PaulDeadringer

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Re: Shooting the best groups of my life, but.....
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2013, 09:41:00 PM »
If you shoot RH, I'd say your arrows are too stiff. But it sounds like they're spines right for your setup.

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Re: Shooting the best groups of my life, but.....
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2013, 09:42:00 PM »
I meant, it sounds like they're spined correctly.

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Re: Shooting the best groups of my life, but.....
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2013, 09:42:00 PM »
Are you a  righty or lefty? Do you have any other point weights to try? If so, go heavier or lighter and see if there is any difference and go from there.
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Re: Shooting the best groups of my life, but.....
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2013, 09:56:00 PM »
keep shooting, it will come over.

Offline Shawn Leonard

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Re: Shooting the best groups of my life, but.....
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2013, 10:15:00 PM »
Nope, them arras are too stiff. Try 175-190 grain point weight! Shawn
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Offline KyRidgeRunner

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Re: Shooting the best groups of my life, but.....
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2013, 10:18:00 PM »
I shoot right handed,  I've tried some heads 20 grains heavier and didn't seem to have an affect.  I will try some really heavy in the morning!  Thanks for the replies and keep the advice coming!  Thanks

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Re: Shooting the best groups of my life, but.....
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2013, 10:26:00 PM »
Try to lower your brace hight by three or four twist.

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Re: Shooting the best groups of my life, but.....
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2013, 10:27:00 PM »
what kind of strike plate material are you using?

 if you use a thin hard strike plate it will move those arrows to your right vs a thicker soft strike like velcro....  If  folks paid more attention to their strike plate material and location, it would sure save a lot of arrow tuning for them.... food for thought... kirk

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Re: Shooting the best groups of my life, but.....
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2013, 10:31:00 PM »
More point weight.  I'm shooting the same GT 600's cut to 29.25" with 175 grains up front out of a 49# Two Tracks Longwalker longbow.  Flying like a dream.
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Re: Shooting the best groups of my life, but.....
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2013, 10:33:00 PM »
A softer strike plate material will move them to the right I think. You may be anchoring the arrow to the side of your eye instead of right below it.

By the way, 2" groups at 20 yards is incredibly good shooting. That's better than most folks shooting full blown Fita rigs at my club.
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Re: Shooting the best groups of my life, but.....
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2013, 10:49:00 PM »
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keep shooting, it will come over.
X2 on this just tried a non center cut jd berry for the first time, took me a few rounds but they came around
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Re: Shooting the best groups of my life, but.....
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2013, 10:50:00 PM »
Would suspect that an ~250 gn pt would be close.
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Re: Shooting the best groups of my life, but.....
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2013, 12:21:00 AM »
Call Dan Toelke. He is very easy to talk to and extremely helpful. He knows his bows and will have you shooting straight in no time.

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Re: Shooting the best groups of my life, but.....
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2013, 01:03:00 AM »
I'm taking a different route . Maybe it's not the bow. It could be where you placing your anchor point. If your shooting and your fingers are somewhere on the side of your face it will make your arrow hit to the left. If this is the case try moving your anchor point closer to the center of your face. Kind of next to your nose under your eye. See if that helps bring them over to the right.
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Re: Shooting the best groups of my life, but.....
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2013, 01:11:00 AM »
Thanks for all the info men!  Will I get poor flight if I go with say that 190-250 grain head when my arra weighs in at 250 ish grains?

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Re: Shooting the best groups of my life, but.....
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2013, 06:26:00 AM »
No, that is why some of are recommending more point weight. A fletched shaft is hard to tell if you are getting good flight as feathers hide a llot of issues. You could be plucking the string a bit as well and that will cause youto shoot left, hand maybe not coming back but flying away from face at release. Sorry but by just shooting the bow over and over you will bring it to the right and closer to the spot but that is just because your brain will adjust and compensate for you. Shawn
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Re: Shooting the best groups of my life, but.....
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2013, 11:10:00 AM »
I'm agreeing with kirk on this...more can be done with your plate than most want to admit.

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Re: Shooting the best groups of my life, but.....
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2013, 11:24:00 AM »
Arrows sound fine. Agree on the strike plate. I would first try a thinner one if possible. Or if it is thin now it may simply be that your shelf on the Whip isn't cut the same way as your old bow was and you will have to adjust your mind to the new point of impact. All bows don't shoot in the same place.
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Re: Shooting the best groups of my life, but.....
« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2013, 01:25:00 PM »
I am with Kirk on this one, all Toelkes I have owned came with a thin leather for strike plate material. A soft piece of velcro will more it over some. Good luck.

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