Author Topic: Carbons for Whip (Read 880 times)

kingrider · « **on:** September 06, 2007, 04:28:00 PM »

I shoot CE Heritage 150's,30" long and they fly great from my 51@28" BW PSAX.Soon,I will be getting a 52#@28" Toelke Whip,can I expect to shoot the same arrows or might I have to weaken them a little?

kingrider · « **Reply #1 on:** September 06, 2007, 05:33:00 PM »

They are 125 and they bareshaft perfectly.My Widow likes stiff arrows.

wtpops · « **Reply #2 on:** September 06, 2007, 05:43:00 PM »

Your Widow is cut 3/16" past center if the Toelke Whip is cut the same you should be close if its not you will most likely be stiff.

kingrider · « **Reply #3 on:** September 06, 2007, 06:40:00 PM »

anyone else?

FJTOYMAN · « **Reply #4 on:** September 06, 2007, 08:03:00 PM »

I have a 51@28 64" whip. I've tried CX 45/60. I have to shoot them full length with 160 up front to get them to bare shaft. At that they tend to be a little stiff. I also have a 58@28 62" that will shoot the same arrow with 125 up front just great. I also shoot Axis FMJ 400 with 145 up front @ 30" out of my 58lb. They shoot great!

FJTOYMAN · « **Reply #5 on:** September 06, 2007, 08:04:00 PM »

I should mention that my draw is actually 29. So I'm shooting 54 and 61 out of those whips.

kingrider · « **Reply #6 on:** September 06, 2007, 08:09:00 PM »

Shawn,
I must be doing something wrong with my Widow then because the bareshaft hits square and in the same group with feathered shafts.Also, broadheads hits dead on with the FP's.

Whip · « **Reply #7 on:** September 06, 2007, 08:26:00 PM »

Oh darn, I thought you were sending me a present...
If they are bareshafting good and flight is great, I'd say they work just fine out of your Widow. Like Wtpops said, if the windows are cut the same past center on both bows I would think they will be darn close for you.

Ontario Longbow · « **Reply #8 on:** September 06, 2007, 08:36:00 PM »

I have a new Whip 52 @ 26. I shoot 28* 150's 220g point and 50g brass insert,, never had a bareshaft fly better,,Frank

DesertDude · « **Reply #9 on:** September 06, 2007, 08:44:00 PM »

Sorry, If you bareshaft test (as per O.L. website) and they are flying perfect for you. Don't listen to what others say. Each shooter/bow are different. Sorry, what works for one may not for another. Mark

Jake · « **Reply #10 on:** September 06, 2007, 11:04:00 PM »

kingrider, bow down... the king has spoken! You most definatley are wrong as all things are the same for everyone. Give me a break. Try some different tip weights and use one of your shafts as a "test" shaft to cut down 1/4" at a time til you get good flight . Not that hard.

Terry Green · « **Reply #11 on:** September 07, 2007, 09:36:00 AM »

I use Arrow Dynamics Trads....and all this arrow 'guessing/spine' stuff went out the window when I started using them.

I can grab any bow I own, and any head from 125 to 250 grains and it don't matter. These arrows fly from any bow/head combo I want to shoot on that given day.

I never have to ask or wonder 'what arrow will shoot good'.

vermonster13 · « **Reply #12 on:** September 07, 2007, 09:39:00 AM »

I have recently made the switch to those also Terry. Point weight is about all I need to adjust myself.

IB · « **Reply #13 on:** September 07, 2007, 09:49:00 AM »

Spoke with Ted at Raptor Archery yesterday, ordered another doz. Trad Traditional myself.

He seems to have been doing a bit of testing of these shafts himself. Might give him a shout as to what he has found out. Pretty much SPOT on with what Terry just said.

JC · « **Reply #14 on:** September 07, 2007, 10:59:00 AM »

Terry's post is a perfect example of a truth to traditional archery: there are very, very few hard and fast rules that aren't different for each individual.

I can't get his AD's to fly out of any of my bows...and boy have I tried. But, they fly good for me out of his bows...go figure. I prefer the now discontinued Carbon Express Terminator Hunters, but that's another story.

I think you have to test arrows for yourself. Too many variables, including the variable of the shooter...as one example, one may deep hook, one fingertip...makes a big difference in what spine arrow each needs for the same bow.

Good luck in your testing, you will learn quite a bit if you just jump in and give it a try. Check OL Adcock's website for some excellent advice on starting to tune.

RamiusEng · « **Reply #15 on:** September 07, 2007, 02:23:00 PM »

I have a whip. 55#@28.5" AMO. In order of performance, in my experience:

1. Sitka Spruce 60-65# spine
2. Carbon Express Maxima 3D select 250's weighted up Toelke's way.
3. Beman MFX 400's, wieghted up Toelke's way.

All with 125 grain heads. Remember Mr. Toelke likes to see 9-13 g.p.p. arrows used on the whip. Stick to that recommendation and it is quietest long bow I have heard yet.

Just my $0.02

chris K. · « **Reply #16 on:** September 07, 2007, 02:38:00 PM »

congrats on a whip, Dan is the man when it comes to bows, just ask him what to use. He is hardly wrong. My .02
Chris Kiefner

kingrider · « **Reply #17 on:** September 07, 2007, 07:21:00 PM »

I e-mailed Mr.Toelke and he said my arrows should be a good match.But, he may not be an expert like others on this thread.

3dmuzzy · « **Reply #18 on:** September 08, 2007, 12:19:00 AM »

Terry's right on the trads They shot out of all my bows with 100 grain inserts or not,very easy arrow to tune..ED

kingrider · « **Reply #19 on:** September 08, 2007, 08:12:00 AM »

What is the website for the AD Trads and where is the best place to get them?


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