HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!

I typed this on a iPad without my glasses,  I will delete it , there are too many typing errors.

[Hermon]

Pavan-  I have shot a straight grip before and haven't noticed any interference before, but it is the first time I have shot a bow this long.

I don't feel I shoot a "target" style.  I shoot low wrist on my other longbows with a canted bow. Haven't ever shot a bow straight vertical unless a specific shot called for it.

Had nice weather today to get outside and shoot it more.  Wasn't as noticeable today but still had it happen a few times.  I still feel that I would be better served by a slightly shorter bow.  Thanks.

[frassettor]

Hi fellas!

I'm looking at ordering a Hill. I was looking at the Wesley Special, but just out of curiosity for those who know so much more about theses then I do. What's the difference between the models they offer besides the amount of bamboo laminations?

[typical2]

From what i understand HH longbow models are different in the number of lams and type of wood in limbs.  The Tembo is their 3 lam bow.  The Wesley has 5 lams.  Others have 4 but you can have extra lams upon request.  All models can come backset, straight, or string follow.  Also they can make any in a reverse handle.

Eric

[frassettor]

Originally posted by typical2:
  All models can come backset, straight, or string follow.  Also they can make any in a reverse handle.

Eric

What are these?

[far rider]

Richard,
The difference in the 3 primary bamboo models goes a little farther than just the number of lams. The Tembo has 3 lams with 2 lams on the back of the riser, and the 3rd lam or belly lam is designed to come up over the fades onto the belly of the riser.
The Big 5 has 4 lams of bamboo all on the back side of the riser. That is why most Big 5 models you see have black or brown glass to cover the fades without any bamboo there.
The Wesley is more like the Tembo design with 4 lams on the back of the riser and 1 lam over the fades on the belly.
There are of course variations to this by custom order, but that is the way those 3 are designed.
The Redman is all yew, 3 on the back side and 1 on the belly.
The Halfbreed, Cheetah, and Owl are a combo of yew, juniper or osage outer lams, then 2 lams of bamboo, then a final lam of yew, juniper, or osage on the belly of the riser. Most of the models with bamboo cores mirror this design. He makes an all osage limbed bow that is typically like the Redman, except with osage orange.

That's about it. You can of course custom order in many different wood combos. Carbon can be added as well as actionboo cores etc.
 
Craig will build them straight, backset up to an 1" or string follow up to an 1". He will also make a forward riser variation on request.

Each of these bows have unique characteristics.

Tim

[frassettor]

Thanks Tim

[bicster]

One thing you can't go wrong with is Howard Hill Archery's customer service.

[Brianlocal3]

I was shooting the JD Berry Morningstar today. Weather was 55 degrees, back to 0 degrees tomorrow morning!!

Shooting some amazin Doug fir that I received from one of our members. Now these woodies fly great and if I could get the skills down to craft woods like this id shoot them more.
 

 

[far rider]

 
Nice arrows Brian. Been frigid here plus I had a business trip that kept me away until this evening. Busy week coming up, so trying to get some time to work with the FF. Hoping this weekend.

[Green]

Recommendations please.  Shrew Hill......FF or B55? Thanks

[RC]

You guys should check out the hill gang hunt thread. What its all about. The other guys should be getting home and posting bout now.RC

[frassettor]

[WESTBROOK]

Rob, I would stick with the B-50,55,500 on that bow, they were not built for FF.

Eric

[Green]

Thanks for confirming Eric.  I ended up PM'ing Ron and asking him directly earlier today.  He graciously replied with the same advice.  

I've built and shot a few B55 strings over the past few months.  I like that material quite a bit better than B50 as it settles in quickly and stays much more stable after the initial shooting.  It also doesn't give up much in performance over my D10 strings.

My computer crashed. Going through the pile crap that had accumilated on my desk, looking for a clue to where I put my back up usb, I came across a wad of Hill pics. On one I noticed that he was pulling ring finger heavy and even twisting the string a bit. I thought, crap, I do that to. I loaded my new Morningstar and my r/d bow and went out to see if I had inadvertantly tuned my bows doing that heavy ring finger thing. I found that if I pulled heavy to the ring finger and light with index finger with my Morningstar that I got just a bit of string vibration, nothing much else and the arrows did not care. When I did that with the r/d, there was additional handshock and the arrows jumped up and right, sometimes way more than I would have thought. that explains the wacko miss that I had on that turkey.  It also explains why Hill said that he could not shoot well enough with a short sensitive bow.  When I shoot at game, delicate finesse things are difficult for me. What I wonder about is, if shooting a bow that corrects all of my faults will encourage me have sloppy form.

[Paul_R]

Originally posted by pavan:
.... What I wonder about is, if shooting a bow that corrects all of my faults will encourage me have sloppy form.

I understand your concern and I say why risk it? I'll give you a fair price for the bow and you can rest assured that it won't help my sloppy form at all!    

The last time someone asked for a bow from me, he expected that it would be free.  When I told him that all of the free bows were gone, he did not believe me. Someone said that since I was shooting left handed, that I was dumping all of my right hand bows.

[bsv]

I talked to James Berry today about my new to me Northstar,
     
What a wonderful,very knowledgeable man,thank-you for taking time for me on a Sunday morning James.I adjusted the brace like you suggested and BINGO,VERY SWEET!

[Brianlocal3]

Bsv,
Outstanding looking north star. That bows has classy down pat!!
Put her to good use