HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!

[Mississippi bow hunter]

How much does the carbon help in HH. I talk to Craig last week and he was telling me that he could had a piece of carbon to the belly side of the bow. Craig said about 5-6 fps. I think I read somewhere that it made the draw feel a little more stiff. Just curious

[Brianlocal3]

Ok,
So I have not been able to shoot much since two Sundays ago due to my wonderful coworker giving me the flu which turned into a sinus infection and bronchotis.
On top of that I have been focusing on my JD Berry taipan since it's my 3d bow for the season . I got some great wood arrows not long ago (I love my carbons) to try an persuade myself to shoot in the trad longbow division at the worlds this year. And I must say when you get a great set , it proved that there is better than "wood arrow straight" these bad boys are "carbon straight"
I have since set out on a mission to learn to straighten arrows like this . I have gathered one of the two main parts needed to do it according to Rob Greens YouTube video. I'm waiting on my spinner to show up now.  I also need to get a good taper tool.

My Morningstar got brought out in full swing tonight and was stacking the woodies one on top of another.....  
When it comes to a straightlimbed bow I don't see how it can get better. I haven't shot but 6-10 arrows from it in over a month is say and it is just dead on target from the get go.
I hope yall are getting some shooting in

I have a set of cedars for  mine that are under 500 grains, they are perfect with 145 grain heads. I have a bunch that are about 520 grains, they are perfect with the 160 grain heads. Then of course there are all of those 1918s which come in heavier. I was thinking about running over to the nearest archery shop that supposedly has a new top of the line chronograph, to see how my Morningstar handled these various weights, speed wise.  A local wheelie guy said not to bother because the readings were all coming in 50 fps slow. That is worse than the last one, which according to him, was consistantly reading 30 fps slow. I think I will just wait for a nice day and go out and shoot them for distance, they are all fletched the same.

[centaur]

Green and I worked out a trade, Hill style for Hill style. He will be getting a limited edition HH 'Longbowmen's Choice' that is a bit too short for me at 64", and I will be getting a Shrew Hill at 68". I have salivated over the Shrew since they came out. Anybody else have a Shrew Hill, and how do you like it?

[Bob B.]

Centar,

I had a 68 inch 49 at 28 pounds Shrew Hill.  It had 4 lams tempered boo, a brown glass back and white ( antiqued ) belly, with a myrtle riser.  Why I ever let Mudd talk me out of it I will never know!  All that bow did was make me smile, and hit nearly everything I ever pointed it at.  I killed both deer and hogs with mine.  I shot that bow so often, I would dream about it and could "feel" the shot in my sleep.  Man I am an idiot!

So, the Shrew Hill is a wonderful bow.  I found mine to not be the fastest or the prettiest, but dang I could hit with it and it always drove that arrow deep.  It was also spooky quiet.  Mine was a straight grip with wedge on the belly that was pretty sharp, that took a bit of getting used to for me, but once there ... well it just fit.  

Please post a picture of your bow.  If you enjoy Hill style bows, you are in for a treat ... I bet Green will regret trading his bow away.

Good luck sir.

Bob.

[Mudd]

Bob B I'm sure I'd let you have it back if you miss it that much....lol

We could work something out.....lol

An arm or leg maybe?

God bless,Mudd

[tg2nd]

A leg would be better 'cause he still could shoot.
   

[bicster]

Looks like Green is getting my old bow. It had it's longest home with me and I even took a whitetail with it.

[Green]

Nice to know Bicster.  Don't worry....she'll get plenty of use, and will feed her well.    :D

[seven crows]

For the Howard Hill/ Hill type longbow shooters. Do you prefer the Traditional "WEDGE" shape ( sharper or pointier on belly/palm side) or Rounded/slightly rounded shaped risers and WHY?  Especially interested in opinions if you have shot both. Thanks

[Tradcat]

In my humble opinion, I think the wedge grip has allowed me to shoot more "torque free". The way it was explained to me was like this....If you hold a screw driver by the steel while trying to turn it on a screw, you have no leverage...BUT when you hold it by the much fatter handle, it turns a screw very easy. When I heard that...the light went on AND  I have found that principle to be very true in my shooting. Less surface area on a grip means less torque for me !  Tradcat

One thing with a 2" plus grip, it does not matter so much what it is finally shaped like, the torque stability is up to the limbs. The wedge will fit into the hand and align with with the wrist bones. However, if the limbs will not resist torque and if the sharp grip is the wrong depth for the shooter's hand, there could be a loss of control. A deep heeled grasp is essential with the sharp wedge and the fingers need to be able pull that grip straight to the base of the hand. Regardless what grip is used, the longbow should never swim in the hand.

[Tradcat]

amen

[Kris]

I understand the reasoning behind a wedge shaped handle and can shoot one but it does feel organic or comfortable to me.  

I always alter my handles to fit my hands exactly, which means they are contoured and shaped like the palm of my hand, not a square block.

I like the tradition of a Hill handle and like how they look for some odd reason but to me they are NOT the epitome of a grip that I truly find desirable.

Kris

[Brianlocal3]

I'm the opposite of a lot of the hill style purists, as I do let the grip "swim" in my hands, nor do I pull the grip into the palm with my fingers, I let string pressure set the grip

You can get by with that with a Morningstar, but I will never understand that three under thing. Tried it once, stuck an arrow between the two up stairs windows of my house. I was only off by about 45 degrees. I lifted the arrow off the shelf when I shot at my normal tempo.  I was trying to justify keeping a bow that was tillered for three under shooting. I gave it away.

[Brianlocal3]

By the lack of activity here, it has me wondering if the scientists have actually found the cure for the "hill bug".
May the cold just has the infection laying dormant

[ron w]

Maybe after almost 1100 pages total the topic has been covered.......     or not!

[Brianlocal3]

Oh, there is more to cover I'm sure. If not , then it can just by like the VFW, and start retelling all the old stories and opinions again. Lol

[WESTBROOK]

May the cold just has the infection laying dormant

Cold..heck it got up to 16 here, I'm outside shootin instead inside chatin. 5 degrees, clear sky,moonlight and snow you can shoot all night...

Eric