HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!

[far rider]

What a picture! Hornets = very, very bad juju! The word "relentless" comes to mind.
   

Serious question here.  Forgive me, I am a little horse, so I have to type this.  With what arrow and how much lead with a 53# Berry Morningstar would you give a large bat flying around in your living room, or the one that came between my legs out of my basement.  I missed several swipes with my cane, so I am thinking either .410 or my Morningstar if any more show up.  I think that storm did something to the bat guard on my chimney and they made a home in it.  The trap won't close tight and I thought I fixed that with mesh, this afternoon when I discovered a bunch of little ones at the bottom of my chimney.  We had one last night as well.  That is why was looking.
It is odd how a bat can find the tiniest hole to get into your house, but cannot find the open door to get out.
  Brown bats are not protected in Iowa, but they make a challenging indoor target.

[ScouterMike]

Since an arrow stuck in wall could be considered decorative and a hole from a shotgun blast would let more bats in, use the bow. As far as leading them, forget that, just shoot where the are going to be, no problem.

[JDBerry]

Pavan, I would follow Scouters advice, But get a stuffed bat(female) and hang it in the middle of r
oom(decoy) Tip over couch and use as ground blind.   ....mE

[JDBerry]

Pavan, I would follow Scouters advice, But get a stuffed bat(female) and hang it in the middle of r
oom(decoy) Tip over couch and use as ground blind.   ....mE

[JDBerry]

PS, Put a fan on the OTHER side of the room, You don't what that flying mouse to pick up your sent.

I notice Howard Hill does list any bats on the wing on his kill record.

[Jacquesbonin]

Hill followers, I just recieved a  Kramer built Hill, Big Five, 70"75@28" just a screamer! Shooting half inch groups from the get go! My draw is 25.5"s so I assume this bow is 66 pounds at my draw! I am shooting 2018's with 125 grains up front ! 3 arrows at 12 yards in a tight 1/2 inch group  the same at 20 yards  the same at 25 yards! To say I am exstatic is an understatement! Outside of a few scratches, this bow is awsome! I hope I can find another! This bow is late 60's or early 70's, backset with the Kramer bulbed handle and black glass, back and belly! If anyone has one they want to get rid of let me know! Thanks Gang!  Jacques

[far rider]

Sounds like you bagged another one Jacques.
   

[cahaba]

Congrats on another winner Jacques. Can we see some pics?

[lbshooter]

Sounds like you found yourself a great shooter Jacques.  While the Hill and Hill style bows all look similar, they vary in shooting qualities, and construction details. I have owned bows made for Hill archery by most all the makers and it's rare that two are exactly the same, even when made by the same individual.  I have one that was my very special favorite for 20 years made by Craig Ekin and I have yet to find its match.  Unfortunately, it's now too heavy for me which I believe was part of the  mix.  Strangely, a split bamboo Miller has taken its place as my most accurate shooter of my longbows and a Schafer Silvertip one piece recurve the match to my old Ekin bow overall.

[Jacquesbonin]

Lbshooter, what were the specs on your Hill? I find the very oldest I can find shoot as I expect them to! Jacques
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[lbshooter]

It was a  68"/65@28", Big 5 brown glass , slight dish, wedge grip, slightly deflexed. Made for me by Craig in the 80's.  very fast, accurate, and forgiving.

[Brianlocal3]

My Jerry hill arrived today, and wow is it a beaut.  Had a busy day so not a whole lot with it yet.

It arrived without a string so after the kids baths I whipped one up real quick cause i had to sling some  arrows from it.

She shoots well and is equally quiet and well behaved 3U as she is split.  I was shooting in the dark at 15 yards and they were all in the middle of the bag target, not real tight but center mass. Shooting 50-55 and 55-60s.

My plans of cutting it down and re shaping may not come to fruition as at the fades the bow is 1" wide, 1/2" at nocks, 1/2" deep core.
The grip is a slight dish and only 13/16-7/8" wide which is very very nice. The back of the grip is squared off with a wedge on the belly.
Even the tiller is perfect for me at 1/16", I'm gonna give it a while to think about and I may still cut it down but for now it will stay as is.

It's two lams of action wood for the core with black glass back and belly.  

But it is a pain in the behind stringing that 69" lol.

Overall great shooter and I am very impressed. I just wish it was 66". Looks like one lam is a parallel and te other is a taper but I'll look closer tomorow .

1 3/4" backset
 

 

 

[far rider]

Wow,
Quiet week for the Hill thread.

[Jim Picarelli]

I have a Hill coming in this week...pic's to come soon!

[Blaino]

Nice addition Brian! That narrow grip looks like it would all bit eliminate torque from the bow hand.  Is it square?

[far rider]

Shout out to any and all Hill (ASL) experts out there. Any of you guys know the timeline on John Schulz bow building? What I'm speaking specifically about is when he went out on his own and began building custom longbows. Trying to fill in the gap between his departure from Hill, and when he retired from building. Thanks in advance.

Tim

[lbshooter]

Jong Shulz produced bows for Howard Hill from 1968-1974
Check the makers dates on Dick Wightman site


 http://www.dickwightman.com/howardhill/identifyinghills/identifyinghills.html

[far rider]

Thanks lbshooter. I checked those dates earlier today. I'm really looking for the time post Hill when he went out on his own building custom longbows. I appreciate it though!

Tim