HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!

[cmh]

Your bow turned out nicely ..... Very well done    

[cmh]

Originally posted by Bob B.:
Well, this page is near the bottom, so II will ask a question to the gang, what do you think about Jet longbows?   I have been talking with Joel about his Leopard, a, 3/4inch backset 68 inch bow with Yew limbs.  Has anyone had any experience with these bows?

Bob

Checked out his website very nice bows...... Dumb question guy here..... What's meant by 1/2" backseat or 3/4" backset? Thanks

[David Mitchell]

cmh, it means that when unstrung, the tips of the limbs extend away from the shooter from being totally straight by that amount.  Put another way, if you unstring the bow and lay it on the floor with the belly of the bow up toward you, there will be 1/2" or whatever of space between the floor and the back of the grip. It is the opposite of string follow where the unstrung profile bends back toward the belly of the bow.

[cmh]

Understood..... Thank you  

[Scott E. Thomas]

I shot a jet buckshot at the baltimore shoot this year. I really liked how it shot and the workmanship was excellent. I would have brought that bow home but Steve Turay already emptied my wallet. He is good at that.    I had all intentions of buying that bow at sawmill but Joel sold it at the howard hill classic. He will be building its twin for me sometime this fall. God bless, Scott.

[bsv]

can you guy's tell me what the minimum gpp on a hill style bow? not that I would go there ,just curious.thanks Burt

[Rob DiStefano]

Originally posted by bsv:
can you guy's tell me what the minimum gpp on a hill style bow? not that I would go there ,just curious.thanks Burt

when the released arrow makes too much noise, it weighs too little.  either that or yer so close to dry firing that the string pops.  

most hill style (american flatbows) like 10gpp and up, same as any other trad bow.  all bows are unique, as are their archer-masters - find out what yer bow likes best.

I had two heavy weights about 85 to where I drew them. Neither one liked the heavy cedar arrows that I had for them, but they both liked the 560 grain arrows that I shot out of my 64 pound bows. That came out 6.5 gpp. I was easy to recognize, I was the guy with a shake and crossed eyes. Dowel stuffed fiberglass arrows from Tink Nathan made a huge difference on how I liked those two bows. With heavier draw Hills it can be a catch 22 with aluminum and cedar if you like to keep your arrows Hill short. The bows like the heavy arrows, but not the stiff ones. I also do not believe that longbows are immune from the trend that extra heavy bows are less efficient than lighter bows.  I never had a longbow break from shooting them with lighter arrows. You cannot slip on the ice and jam a tip into frozen ground when hunting with light arrows around 8gpp. That bottom tip will crack with the next shot.  I am still curious what  those heavy shock monsters would have felt like with a modern string. One advantage of long carbon shafts, enough experimenting will get an arrow that flies, but Surewoods and longbows seem like they are made for each other.

[bsv]

Thanks guys, my problem is this I have a Robertson that is 57lbs at my draw 28inches I'm at work and don't have exact numbers but, I;ve tryed several different arrows and 2016 and 55 spine poc both cut to 29bop but the weigh around 9gpp and I wanted to make sure that would not damage the bow. I like to shoot 10gpp. Burt

[Rob DiStefano]

there is ALWAYS a risk of bow and/or string failure when a too light mass weight arrow is released from said bow.  

was is "too light mass arrow weight"?  i think much under 8gpp yer gambling, though the bow and its holding weight may dictate otherwise.  

some folks feel just fine 'n' dandy going a few numbers below my personal too-light criteria, and i wish them all the luck in the world.

Some bow designs can tolerate much lower arrow weights than others. How long ones draw length is an important part of the equation as well. You long armed guys get a lot more of a power stroke than us short armed guys. While my old heavy Kramers did not fly apart with those light shafts, I did. I have seen a couple Herters blow when guys were shooting light weight target arrows out of hunting bows. Everyone around here shot them in the old days, nice bows, but they were not designed to shoot skinny no point weight target arrows. It was terrifying and dangerous to be anywhere near them when they go like that.

[bsv]

I read somewhere that weed-eater line can be put inside the shafts to add weight, any thoughts on that?I wounder if it would rattle?

[Rossco7002]

9 GPP is (for me) a very nice weight in an arrow - good speed, decent momentum, bow feels good at the loose... No worries about that weight.

Weedeater line does bump up the mass but it can make the arrows noisy.

[ron w]

When I used weed-eater line I would tape it together till I had a slid fit inside the shaft. No noise then.......I also used stiff cord that worked well and was silent, forgot where I got it.

[cmh]

Unless it's a close it and tight it would bump around etc......

[Green]

Oh happy day....

http://s1138.photobucket.com/user/rgreen1958/slideshow/Miller%20Sage

 

[centaur]

Rob, that is a sweetheart. Your Berry bows are going to go into a jealous rage.

[mike g]

Very nice bow..
What are the no's.

[Green]

This Sage is 69", 50#@28" with Osage Lams and Boo backing.  This is one of the smoothest shooting bows you could imagine, and it gives up nothing in performance to a glass bow.

[far rider]