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Author Topic: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!  (Read 472902 times)

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4360 on: February 23, 2017, 04:30:00 PM »
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Vey nice bow, Mr. Parsons.     :thumbsup:  

But I'm curious:  why the silencers?

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Best wishes,
Frank
Just to clarify: this is a sincere question.  I thought that Hill style bows where already dead silent on release.  I know that my bamboo Big 5 is.

Are there wood choices or string choices which might benefit in some way from using silencers?  Or is there another reason of which I'm unaware?

Frank
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- Hill Halfbreed ASL, 66", 45# @ 27"

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-- 40# @ 28"
-- 50# @ 28"

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4361 on: February 23, 2017, 04:39:00 PM »
I have alpaca wool silencers on my bows.  They may make things slightly quieter for some bows, they may take a little bit of vibration out on some bows, they may just be 'a thing' that some like to have them, for me they are often wind indacators.  I pull a bit of fiber hold it up high and then watch it float around, sometimes they go here, other times they go over there, and sometimes they catch a little up draft and float away like a thistle seed.

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4362 on: February 23, 2017, 05:53:00 PM »
A Pavan said I like them simply because they remove some vibration and that dull"hum".RC

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4363 on: February 23, 2017, 07:05:00 PM »
Hill bows a pretty quiet without silencers, with a wool puff or something similar......they are almost silent.
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4364 on: February 24, 2017, 01:57:00 PM »
Just got word that my mail carrier has a package for me from Medical Lake, WA.  Can't wait to get home and open it.

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4365 on: February 24, 2017, 02:32:00 PM »
Medical Lake is a good place to get mail from. Let us see it when you get a chance.
Learner, I also put silencers on my ASLs for the same reason as above; get rid of the string hum. They are as quiet as a mouse fart when so equipped.
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4366 on: February 24, 2017, 04:26:00 PM »
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4367 on: February 24, 2017, 04:31:00 PM »
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Medical Lake is a good place to get mail from. Let us see it when you get a chance.
Learner, I also put silencers on my ASLs for the same reason as above; get rid of the string hum. They are as quiet as a mouse fart when so equipped.
Thank you, Centaur.

My Big 5 is already dead silent.  But I did notice with the 10 strand string (which came with it) that there was a residual resonance after the shot.  It didn't seem that you could hear it, but rather just slightly feel feel it in the handle, and see it in the string, even with the 510 gr. woodies I'm shooting.

Since putting on a 14 strand by TenRing Strings, that residual resonance has reduced even further.

However, it's too minor to bother with silencers, IMO.

Best Wishes,
Frank
- Hill Big 5 ASL, 66", 45# @ 27"
- Hill Halfbreed ASL, 66", 45# @ 27"

- Cabela's Warden 62" recurves:
-- 40# @ 28"
-- 50# @ 28"

Proverbs 16:3
"Commit your works to the Lord, and your plans will be established."

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4368 on: February 25, 2017, 08:38:00 PM »
There are some theories that a B50 may have a lower pitch than harder materials.  I have also been told that with some bows, a B50 may be a little more forgiving.  I do not know if either is true, but I do know that when a bow shoots sweet with a B50 it is a good bow and has a very special feel.  I tend to make my B50 strings a strand or three fatter than they need to be.  I could use a new spindle of it, but I don't know of anyone that has any.

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4369 on: February 25, 2017, 09:35:00 PM »
Pavan.  The Footed Shaft sells B-50.

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4370 on: February 25, 2017, 10:31:00 PM »
Lots of places sell B-50.

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4371 on: February 26, 2017, 12:28:00 AM »
I guess i assumed that the B55 took it over and the 50 was dropped.  Some men don't read instructions, apparently, I don't read catalogs.  i should have checked first, but I have an excuse. I got a new slingshot in mail.  How many times can a ball bearing ricochet in your basement and still hurt when it hits your head.  I think, I counted three.

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4372 on: February 26, 2017, 10:51:00 AM »
Ah Pavan, I know the feeling.  I used a nifty slingshot to shoot AT some crows in my favorite turkey big oak tree ( the turkey's roost in that tree consistently ) this past Fall.  A few weeks later I'm under the tree watching one tom about 30 yds out trying to lure him in closer when all of a sudden something hits my shoulder Hard, damn that hurt!  Thinking an acorn, I look down and there's a ball bearing like the ones I used with the slingshot.  There's a lesson or a sign in this I think.  I darn sure ain't going to shoot a broad head up in that tree!
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4373 on: February 26, 2017, 11:02:00 AM »
If you are going to shoot your slingshot indoors you should shoot lead, also better for hunting, more mass

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4374 on: February 26, 2017, 02:37:00 PM »
You've all seen when Hill shot the bounced ping-pong ball.  Hard plastic Bludgeons and antique ping-pong balls do not mix, there was a little piece stuck in my ball bouncer's head, always wear the safety goggles, no matter how stupid they make you look.  I thought the card board box with some old towels in it would be safe with the steel bearing.  Who would have thunk it that I would miss at 15 feet, ball bearing hit the sling shot. I should have hung the blunt catcher net behind it.

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4375 on: February 26, 2017, 04:20:00 PM »
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Medical Lake is a good place to get mail from. Let us see it when you get a chance.
 
I would but photobucket is not working for me.  Got a 66" Heritage 50# @ 28".  Brown glass on back, clear glass on belly with yew veneer.  Osage riser on belly side of all lams (exposed fades).  Bow shoots wonderfully.  Dead in the hand and the quietest bow I have.

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4376 on: February 26, 2017, 04:51:00 PM »
That sounds like a beauty Hermon.......   :thumbsup:
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4377 on: February 27, 2017, 11:21:00 AM »
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God bless,Mudd
Mudd, WAY back in this thread (2013) you posted this photo of yourself.

I noticed that your pinkie is facing forward, ratber than tucked backwards.

Are you still shooting this way?  I'm thinking of trying it.  I already have my thumb facing forward, up near my index finger, as it seems to work better with my overall build and facial structure.

Best wishes,
Frank
- Hill Big 5 ASL, 66", 45# @ 27"
- Hill Halfbreed ASL, 66", 45# @ 27"

- Cabela's Warden 62" recurves:
-- 40# @ 28"
-- 50# @ 28"

Proverbs 16:3
"Commit your works to the Lord, and your plans will be established."

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4378 on: February 27, 2017, 02:58:00 PM »
Learner I started keeping that little finger straight because of arthritis in the finger.

Old Doc Robinson always told me if something causes you to hurt... don't do it.  I have headed his advise in most cases.

It took me a lot of years to stop what I was doing that was causing me the pain but I can say now that I am free from the "Chew" and all other forms of nicotine delivery systems.

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4379 on: February 27, 2017, 04:20:00 PM »
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Learner I started keeping that little finger straight because of arthritis in the finger.

Old Doc Robinson always told me if something causes you to hurt... don't do it.  I have headed his advise in most cases.

It took me a lot of years to stop what I was doing that was causing me the pain but I can say now that I am free from the "Chew" and all other forms of nicotine delivery systems.

God bless,Mudd
:)    

Thank you, Mudd....and here I thought that it was done as a special technique to improve your release!  

And it's great to hear about getting rid of the bad stuff.      :clapper:  

I have been trying to get the cleanest release, as I learn to shoot Hill style.  I've been experimenting with anchor point, thumb position, etc.  My eyeglasses really complicate matters, hence my quest.  That and my own physical build.

I was having an issue with a persistent nock low lately.  Not a lot, but just a few degrees.  I found that keeping my thumb parallel to my index finger, with the tip on the back of the string as I draw, helps somewhat.

It seems that with my facial structure, when I keep my draw thumb angled down over my palm in the "standard" position, the second joint (at the web) juts out enough to push my hand away from my face slightly.  (The second joint is what many confuse as the "base" joint of the thumb, but the actual base joint is down near the wrist).

So keeping the the thumb parallel with the index finger keeps that joint flatter, which allows me to keep my draw hand closer to my face, and possibly more in line with my eye, as well as giving me a few more degrees of freedom to cant my bow.

So when I saw your photo, it made me think that it may also be good to keep the pinkie facing forward, which may help my ring finger, by allowing for a cleaner release.  Just a thought I had.

Best wishes,
Frank
- Hill Big 5 ASL, 66", 45# @ 27"
- Hill Halfbreed ASL, 66", 45# @ 27"

- Cabela's Warden 62" recurves:
-- 40# @ 28"
-- 50# @ 28"

Proverbs 16:3
"Commit your works to the Lord, and your plans will be established."

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