HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!

[two4hooking]

You'll love that handle leather also!  Same as on mine.  He has been busy!

Getting ready for MONDAY, I set up three 55 pound Acme cedars as a start to net length to the lead corner of a 125, 145 and 160 grain field point.  I adjusted the shaft lengths so the lead corner of each came exactly 26%1/4".  I shot them out my current go to dual shooter Berry that is 3/8" outside of center, with my wife watching the arrow flight.  She said, "how can i see what your draw length is from behind you."  I said, "Don't worry about it, I can feel it."  I shot all three arrows from 20 yards over and over and she swore they all flew the same, perfect.  I hate it when that happens, there should have been a clear winner. Dang net length arrows anyway.

[Learner]

Larry, that's because your form is so good!

I remember reading how Howard would take arrows of different spine, length, etc, from various archers at a shoot, and then shoot them all very well.  (It might have been in Craig's book, but I've also read it on the forums.)

Anyway, to me that illustrates the point that with ASLs and wood arrows, tuning is not as critical as one might assume.

Best wishes,
Frank

[two4hooking]

Larry, I'll second Frank's notion about your form being good.  Nate's bows prefer a stiff arrow but shoot a wide spine range if you do your part.  

Every now and then I get into a tuning tizzy trying to micro-tune arrows and then ultimately realize I am wasting my time because my form is not as consistent as I need.

[kevsuperg]

I've recently started tuning my Wesley special forward handle. 64" 50@28.
 As mentioned before getting the nock under my eye seems to be essential to my accuracy .
 I notice tho in cavalcade of archery Mr hill seems to have his draw hand and therefore the nock off to the side of his cheek rather than under the eye.
 Any thoughts on that?.

Hill wrote that his arrow travels from right to left in his sight line. He anchored past the corner of his mouth with the bow canted.  The further one is from the target the less degree that will appear to be.   With bows that are less center shot, I cant the bow more.  When Hill wrote that his bows were not at all center shot, they never were center shot, probably in his pre-fiberglass days.  He added the little leather foots as an arrow rest because his bows did not have much if any sight window cut outs. Staying away from that silly paradox theory stuff, Hill acknowledged his arrow position, according to his writing, although John Schulz said that he never taught that to him in the 50s. I suppose that over time the secondary 'imaginary' aiming point becomes instinctive, but over time the normal hand/eye coordination subconsciously develops a similar familiar visual framework.

[kevsuperg]

I haven't read much on Howard, suppose I should.
 Did he have a solid anchor, doesn't seem so from the videos I've watched.
 I guess he was just "one with the bow " as it were.

There was a lot more persnickety exactness to his shooting than the videos suggest.  i was told, years ago, that he sometimes missed and would simply shrug it off.  I wonder what was called a miss. Something like, "I was shooting at the bumble bee's head, I missed and hit him in the butt."

[Learner]

Originally posted by pavan:
......I wonder what was called a miss. Something like, "I was shooting at the bumble bee's head, I missed and hit him in the butt."

LOL!!!

   

[MikeNova]

Opening day here on the 15th!  Anyone else going to be out in the woods with a hill bow this month?

[Terry Green]

There's a lot of videos in the pioneers and legends forum ...you can go and see exactly how he shot.

[kevsuperg]

That I will do Terry.
 Mike I'm taking my Wesley special out starting Aug 30th. Was planning on using a recurve again this year but man now that my hill is tuned I can't put it down.
 I'm just struggling with bow quiver vs no bow quiver

[Ari_Bonn]

Got my full Hill set up. String follow and a proper hill back quiver. Quick to line up a shot and quick to get another just incase. Perfect for hunting.

     

a long tube came today. In it was two bow strings, two files with safety edges, my very favorites that I was having a very hard time finding.
 

[two4hooking]

C'mon..... reports????  How does it shoot for you?  Pictures!!!!

I think you will like that serving also....

and also this
 

I should have waited until my wife gets home with the better camera, these are just from my tracfone.  But I gotta go shoot some arrows.
 

My test arrows. 1 28" bop 1918 with a 145 grain target point. 1 27" bop 1918 with a one piece ferrule and a glue-on 160 grain target point.  1 65 Acme cedar cut 27" bop 190 grain field point.  1 58 pound tapered Surewood cut to 27" bop 160 grain point. 1 53 pound Acme with a 160 point cut to net length 26&1/4" at the lead corner of the field point. 1 47 pound spine Wapiti tapered cedar cut to 27" bop with a 145 grain field point.  This is from the above bow, and 20 yards.  Not bragging about the group, but the fact that the group was done with above arrows and I cannot tell if any of them fly bad, they all looked stable and straight in flight.  My neighbor said, 'you should take a picture of one those piles of arrows.' I was using his younger eyes for a second opinion on the arrow flight, he did with my phone.  I have some serious doubts about arrow flight and tuning issues, I wonder if we make too much out of it at times. But oh my does this pretty stick throw arrows pretty.

 
 
 

[ron w]

Just love a dual shelf..........